My 50th birthday GT500 or ZL1?

[SIRLOIN]

Originally Posted by Coolidge

You bet, here's more ZL1 goodies I like that the GT500 doesn't seem to offer.

Automatic Transmission w/paddle (touch) shifters
Heated mirrors
Heated seats
Remote starter
Rear parking assist camera
Daytime running lights
Remote trunk release
Power passenger seat
Adjustable steering wheel
Auto dimming rear view mirror

Here's some goodies that the GT500 has that the ZL1 doesn't seem to have/offer.

Bigger supercharger
670HP
600TQ
Hand built engine
Forged Internals
200MPH
7k redline
Carbon Fiber Drive shaft
300 pounds less weight
HID/LED headlights
LED tailights
Recaro seats
can do 0-62 in first gear
can do the 1/4 in 3rd gear
Torsen limited slip diff
Glass roof
NAVIGATION
the OPTION to not get charged for transmission and diff coolers if you dont want to.
NO GAS GUZZLER TAX...

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by Coolidge

....15psi of boost

I'm not a smart phone Einstein so beg my pardon for my apparent lack of magazine/ internet knowledge (LOL)..if that is what it's gonna have from the factory I gotta admit that suckers gonna come on like gangbusters!. 9 lbs of boost for the LSA, 10.5 for the LS9. But, there is a diminishing return on increasing the HP, and the real task is putting it to the ground and using it without changing lanes. It's gonna be interesting for sure to see what comes into play over the next two to three years!

[Coolidge]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Welcome to the Half Century Club! As Billy Crystal was famous for saying in one of his skit's on SNL....You (will) look marvelous in a ZL1, the ZL1 is The hands down mid life crisis American Muscle machine. Mustang, ...meh. ZL1 isn't boyish looking, it's freakin bad ass as all hell. Sure, it ain't perfect, but...is anything? That's my story and I'm stickin to it...

Thanks! That the $56k ZL1 put an American foot stomp on a bunch of high priced European super cars at Nuremberg...priceless!

[Coolidge]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

I think for what you are looking for, a CTS-V maybe the ticket! You seem to like the comfort features more than anything else and the super-Caddy will fit the bill. Fast and Luxurious.

(Coolidge barfs violently) NO! Gawd that thing is ugly.

[SIRLOIN]

Originally Posted by Coolidge

Or is it the GT500 isn't designed to disipate the heat at 7,000 rpm or take the 15psi of boost for more than a few seconds?

Ok then. Tell me this. Name one production motor that can do better?

Also, why in the hell would you want to be at 7k rpm for longer than a second anyways is beyond me...

[htron50]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Welcome to the Half Century Club! As Billy Crystal was famous for saying in one of his skit's on SNL....You (will) look marvelous in a ZL1, the ZL1 is The hands down mid life crisis American Muscle machine. Mustang, ...meh. ZL1 isn't boyish looking, it's freakin bad ass as all hell. Sure, it ain't perfect, but...is anything? That's my story and I'm stickin to it...

Originally Posted by Coolidge

Thanks! That the $56k ZL1 put an American foot stomp on a bunch of high priced European super cars at Nuremberg...priceless!

I feel like it's getting to be "Clint Eastwood Time" in here .... who the hell is that in the front yard? Time to start a BBQ.... anybody care for some horseburgers?

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

what I would like to know is the OP's other name here on Camaro5.

...you know...I have had that eeerie, nagging feeling myself about some others here as well, just sayin....

[Coolidge]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

what I would like to know is the OP's other name here on Camaro5.

If you are suggesting I have more than one account no I have just the one. The moderator can probably confirm if you have concerns.

[Steve Dallas]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

This just in at the news desk: Its a ZL1 forum!

Later: 580 hp from a pushrod is just such a terrible way to drop the ball.

I'm not trying to overstep my bounds as a new member here, but we all know what you're going to get as an answer on here. Probably the exact opposite you would on a Mustang forum.

(just to clarify...the later segment is total sarcasm)

Yes, and the Mustang still uses "old technology" in their solid rear axle.

I'd be more concerned about that than the pushrods...

[Deki]

Originally Posted by Coolidge

You bet, here's more ZL1 goodies I like that the GT500 doesn't seem to offer.

Automatic Transmission w/paddle (touch) shifters
Heated mirrors
Heated seats
Remote starter
Rear parking assist camera
Daytime running lights
Remote trunk release
Power passenger seat
Adjustable steering wheel
Auto dimming rear view mirror

Actually, the Mustang does have heated mirrors, heated seats, rear park assist and camera, remote trunk release, and an auto dimming rear view mirror. Like I said, you made up your mind when you created this thread, so it's a pointless thread where Camaro vs. Mustang crowd just tries to prove their car is better. Everyone talking about the street comfort of the ZL1 with the MR, take one for a drive and then you can state it as fact. If it's anything like the ZR-1, it rides good for a super car, but a smooth ride it is not.

[Coolidge]

Originally Posted by BATMAN!

You certainly didn't say anything about taking it to any track either.

And let's say you were going to track it you will still never see the one you've mentioned.

I didn't say a lot of things, for example I didn't say Angelina Jolie looks hot but its still true. One of the first things I will do if I buy a ZL1 is sign up for a performance driving course or two. I have no experience driving a car like this so some training seems wise.

[Coolidge]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

I'm not a smart phone Einstein so beg my pardon for my apparent lack of magazine/ internet knowledge (LOL)..if that is what it's gonna have from the factory I gotta admit that suckers gonna come on like gangbusters!. 9 lbs of boost for the LSA, 10.5 for the LS9. But, there is a diminishing return on increasing the HP, and the real task is putting it to the ground and using it without changing lanes. It's gonna be interesting for sure to see what comes into play over the next two to three years!

Yeah I read that in the Car and Driver article, 15psi sounded high but here's the quote...

swapped the old supercharger for a larger and more efficient TVS unit that ups boost from 9 to 15 psi, and fitted a larger intercooler.

[2cnd chance]

It's all headed to a point of diminishing returns, power wise. Reason being those that really use the power will not be satisfied and will add to it in both cars. Everyone else will "never" use either car to its potential. It's all a whose is bigger contest while never proving it.

[Coolidge]

Originally Posted by SIRLOIN

Ok then. Tell me this. Name one production motor that can do better?

Also, why in the hell would you want to be at 7k rpm for longer than a second anyways is beyond me...

Sirloin 7k rpm is off idle to Forumula 1 fans. I'd buy this minivan over both the ZL1 and GT500! Fast foward to 1:27 in the video.