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We aren't saying that engines like this wouldn't be better, its just they are not production available. Now if more time was left on the clock for the Gen 4 V8's then maybe we would see an engine like this, but then we also need to look at R&D cost for that new engine with only one purpose. So if we look at the GM production engines available right now our best option is the LS7, not only is it ready to go but it would also keep people working at the wixom engine plant.
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I am not an LS7 hater, I simply want GM to do their homework and give us something special..heck the GMPP LS3/525HP would do just fine if they would certify it for regular production! It's only like $800 over an OEM LS3??? If the Gen5 camaro has 3 more years left in it, the cost spread out over that span would be nil and since everyone is saying the are gonna hold out on the GenV engine for the Alpha platform then something has got to give.
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07-30-2012, 03:54 PM | #1840 | |
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In regards the unfairness of the engines, we argue the weight issue that "everyone" is so upset about. Also I do believe a certain competitor used a 670 HP engine in their lighter weight car. It uses 15+psi to get it done, maybe a little over the top??? |
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How many times do we have to explain the reason why?? I'd love to see a different engine, I think it would be awesome, but given GM/Chevy's modus operandi for the last number of years we don't think it is going to happen. That's why we push for the LS7 here. Clyde (old geezer) Last edited by wildpaws; 07-30-2012 at 05:01 PM. |
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In regards the unfairness of the engines, we argue the weight issue that "everyone" is so upset about. Also I do believe a certain competitor used a 670 HP engine in their lighter weight car. It uses 15+psi to get it done, maybe a little over the top???
Absolutely not at all...that Is Ford's premier car, and they pulled out all the stops to make it such, and with that said if the ZL1 had that much HP it would wipe up the track of the 500 with ease. GM has the better suspension, steering and braking therefore a quicker car on a track. Chevrolet has the Corvette and GOD forbid the Camaro gets that much attention. I can't even imagine what the ZL1 could do if it had an LS9 in it, but that will never happen because the head haunchos worry about stepping on the toes of the Corvette; Ford doesn't have to worry about that. |
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I know there's several thousand posts on the topic that I haven't seen, and I think I'm apt to do a little more background research than most. I guess I'm too used to the ease with which 383's and 372's came about from 400's and 350's, and that there wasn't a whole lot of difference in the end result between what we called a "301" as teens and what Chevy later called a 302. An LS7 it is, at least for now. Bet it'll be rated a tiny bit differently . . . Norm |
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Imagine having paid $180K for an '06 Ford GT...that now gets outrun by a mere MUSTANG...for ONE THIRD the price! How happy would you be?! Corvette came out with the ZR1 at 2/3rds the price of the Ford GT...and trampled it! EVERYWHERE! ALL THE TIME! Now, Ford, in their infinite wisdom, sees an opportunity to do their faithful GT buyers a "favor" by bringing out a Walmart Special Stang, with a 5.77 lb/hp rating, where they spent the majority of their money building a street-freak engine in a warmed-over chassis to marginally out-time (on a road course) a BOSS LS simply because it has freight train power on the straights to overcome its lack of ability in the turns... Putting an LS9 in a 4100+ lb. Camaro does NOT get you to the 500's 5.77 rating...it would still be over by .5 lb/hp+...and then it would be bargain basement-priced at near-Z06 money...would that make sense? |
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We will not know for sure until we see them head to head, but it looks like the 1LE will compete with the Boss with a measly LS3.
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Ehhhh sorry guys I was having a bad day and forgot its just fun to come on here for me read tales and stories of what we wish and what we want. I guess I am like most of us here on the "Z/28" niche that is very passionate about cars and Camaro's to be specific. Think of all the dumb things we would be doing if we didn't have this site to dream and speculate..some of us probably will never grow up and we have this new amazing car we get to drive and rekindle our passion for cars..it's been a while I know for me at least to after 3 years owning and driving get in a car and still enjoy it like I was 16..y'all have a good night, happy reading be back tomorrow!
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