Mustangs................

[2010-1SS-IBM]

Originally Posted by syr74

You might ant to re-read that before making such a statement, or then again maybe not as the second go 'round may not help you anymore than the first. I didn't criticize the info for being rumor, I criticized the info put forth as an argument because the origin of said info was Chevrolet which is obviously problematic.

As for the safety info I've put forth on the Mustang, unless Ford intends to de-content the Mustang from a safety standpoint I looked at actual crash test data derived from the current car when composing my posts.

Also, as always I'm glad to hear your opinion. Of course, neither the folks at Car and Driver, Automobile Magazine, or accomplished race car drivers like David Donohue (last name ring a bell?) agree. And as always, I would disagree with your summation as well as well.

But please do go into detail since this was a debate based upon safety standards. When you say the Camaro is superior to the Mustang, would that include safety and, more specifically, issues like frontal impact?

Well, since the Mustang doesn't really generate enough horsepower to endanger anybody with a front impact, how about side impact? How's the 'Stang looking there?

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by JewelZ

haha, sounds good now. We will see the price and actual production model's numbers. With the price difference alone it won't be worth it. Not to mention the styling and appearance between the two its almost a joke. The Camaro is killing now, and will remain killing the Mustang. Even if they do get the power in production models what about the most important thing to the average consumer, the Fuel Economy! You really think a 3.7l will get 29+ mpg vs. the 3.6l direct injection! I doubt it, highly! So nothing to be intimidated about. There was no use of even posting this. So what if they do succeed? With the price difference in a 35k+ v6 Mustang and my amazing 33k after t ,t ,and l 2LT/RS/AUTO 2010 Camaro I will just add a few mods like a CAI for the. remaining price difference and outsource the Rustang!!! I will end up with better performance and better fuel econ than Ford could ever give me for the price of their piece of crap!

Quick question, since we are talking about fuel efficiency (or you are)... if i can get 29mpg out of my 4.6 V8 what makes you think a 3.7 V6 will do worse?

no need to get angry if and when you reply to this, you seem generally mad and that is not the direction i want my question to head in. mmmkay?

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by meanmike

1. just to name a few paint problem's wich GM already new about since it was a problem with the G8 then there have car's with 400 horse not performing as they should oh and there have been report's of people driving down the road and there car quit's the list does go on. look around this forum alone. I am not cutting on the Camaro but if people are going to call one brand junk over another that has many problem's themself it's just retarded.

Yes, I'm sure we couldn't find any Mustangs w/ paint issues, right?

400 hp problem - see fuse pull solution.

Yes, some cars from all brands have problems. Yes, the first year of a new generation will tend to have more kinks (*whipcrack*) than other years. I'm only going by personal experience and the experience of family/friends. Yes, it's POSSIBLE that maybe my mom (...and my co-worker's husband...okay, tbh, everyone I've ever known that had a Ford automobile...) just happened to get a lemon, a car that after 5 years turned into a lemon, or a car close enough to citruslike to call it one. It's possible it's just coincidence.

I'm not taking that chance.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

Well, since the Mustang doesn't really generate enough horsepower to endanger anybody with a front impact, how about side impact? How's the 'Stang looking there?

That would be 5 star sir.

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

you seem generally mad and that is not the direction i want my question to head in. mmmkay?

You gankin' my mmkays?

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

You gankin' my mmkays?

Oh excuse me... let me re-phrase that

ehem...

mmmkay? ©

Please note the copyright.
-fdjizmzmzmzm 9-22-09 patent pending.

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

Oh excuse me... let me re-phrase that

ehem...

mmmkay? ©

Please note the copyright.
-fdjizmzmzmzm 9-22-09 patent pending.

Hm.

It'll do.

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Yes, I'm sure we couldn't find any Mustangs w/ paint issues, right?

400 hp problem - see fuse pull solution.

Yes, some cars from all brands have problems. Yes, the first year of a new generation will tend to have more kinks (*whipcrack*) than other years. I'm only going by personal experience and the experience of family/friends. Yes, it's POSSIBLE that maybe my mom (...and my co-worker's husband...okay, tbh, everyone I've ever known that had a Ford automobile...) just happened to get a lemon, a car that after 5 years turned into a lemon, or a car close enough to citruslike to call it one. It's possible it's just coincidence.

I'm not taking that chance.

Should'nt need to pull a fuse for your car to work properly. My whole point is if you have truely never had any of these experiences yourself then dont talk shit about another brand they all have issues I own both and it's a fact. Both are great companies. And if you have had a bad experience one time, and then write that company off then that is just foolish, hell if I did that I probably would'nt own 2 GM car's/truck's right now.

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by meanmike

Should'nt need to pull a fuse for your car to work properly.

Nope, but as fixes go, it's an extremely easy one.

My whole point is if you have truely never had any of these experiences yourself then dont talk shit about another brand they all have issues I own both and it's a fact.

I already said some cars of any brand have issues. If the people I know have said their Fords was the worst car they ever owned, I have a right to state that. My mom has absolutely no reason to lie to me about it, right?

And if you have had a bad experience one time, and then write that company off then that is just foolish

Who said "one?"

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by fazm

i remember it being brought up a while back, i thought there was a 13.19 stock.

if not my bad.

but even at 13.3 to 12.8 thats .5 not .8

not bad for 126 horsepower deficit

is the camaro faster? absolutely. trap speed alone shows that

Why do people bring that up? Ford chose a different direction to make those 1/4 times, and Camaro chose the brute force direction. The only thing that should be compared is price range. Out of all the GT500 vs. SS threads I've seen, I have yet to see someone go "That's good for over a 140+ HP, non-supercharged deficit."

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by fazm

i remember it being brought up a while back, i thought there was a 13.19 stock.

if not my bad.

but even at 13.3 to 12.8 thats .5 not .8

not bad for 126 horsepower deficit

is the camaro faster? absolutely. trap speed alone shows that

The mustang has always been able to hold it's own even while down on power...it's truly a testiment to fords pursuit of making their owners happy. GM would have been SOL had ford kept pushrods or even tried to play the horsepower game with them. Now you have the Mustang with a well designed SRA setup and the Camaro packing IRS... it's almost a sure bet the 400hp mustang will lay down some amazing times at the track with their new SRA setup. It's going to get interesting and I think a lot of Camaro owners are going to be whining more than usual (I'll go ahead and include myself for that one. ).

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Who said "one?"

Technically no one did, but from what I gather you and most other's have'nt had any, and I'm not refering to your friend's/family but other's in general. Who know's what the reason why your mother had a bad one, maybe there was something truely wrong or maybe she did'nt maintain it properly. Hell if it was used then you have no idea what the previous owner was like. There are lot's of reason that there could have been problem's. Like I said if I based my decision's the way most do then I would not own 2 GM car's now, I am implying that my experience with GM have not alway's been of high quality, so if I based my decision's on that I would'nt own them.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Why do people bring that up? Ford chose a different direction to make those 1/4 times, and Camaro chose the brute force direction. The only thing that should be compared is price range. Out of all the GT500 vs. SS threads I've seen, I have yet to see someone go "That's good for over a 140+ HP, non-supercharged deficit."

because she is too chubby, that is why nobody says "That's good for over a 140+ HP, non-supercharged deficit." lol

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by TiffanyKG

You're just afraid a woman might drive it better...

haha..my fiancee beat me... It's funny because when people start talking smack and want to run I always ask if they want me or her to drive...they pick her and lose, stings a bit more for them...haha.