My Camaro went home to Oshawa to die......

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by PQ

Lifters is damn true. I'm dealing with it now.

Of course, this creates a Catch 22 - upgrade the lifters and void the warranty because you went into the engine, or have weak lifters.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Of course, this creates a Catch 22 - upgrade the lifters and void the warranty because you went into the engine, or have weak lifters.

No, the lifters would have been covered. In fact, it's a TSB and known issue. But my warranty was gone long ago.

I'm upgrading the lifters, springs, rods, oil pump, tensioner, and the rest.

[RogerBzSS]

I have been watching and reading this thread since it was posted! there is Very good information here unfortunately due to the catastrophic failure of engine components..

I am sorry to see sort of thing happen however it happened and will continue to happen unfortunately

I learned long time ago that any and all performance upgrades typically have a tail light warranty at the 1st corner that is taken to include any factory / mfg warranty going out the window... shit happens .. but damn this is painful to see the carnage on this crash n burn, I know I am learning thru the expense and experience if others thru this forum and there is always something things to be learned in these cases..

I like the list of internal 6.2 engine updates that is being compiled
and ultimately recommended practice in doing performance upgrades for one to think about in adding to the plan in the new hardware when doing this sort of performance upgrades, not that catastrophic failures like this wont happen but it would help reduce chances of destruction of a great engine

I would love the list of Part #'s for the GM parts and the Aftermarket parts
listed, obviously when choosing a Cam kit just be sure the MFG makes a 3 bolt Kit
to include the rest of the Valve train lifter's rods springs etc..

1: Cam (3 bolt) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Matched Valve Train Components
2: cam gear (3 bolt) <<<<<< does GM make a 3 bolt gear ? or are there another MFG's??
3: new tensioner (ls2 tensioner) <<<<<< GM Part #
4: Timing Chain (C5-R) <<<<<<<< GM Part #
5: Crank Bolt <<<<<<<< GM Part #
6: Pushrods <<<<< Matched with Valve Train Components
7: new Oil Pump (High volume) Melling Part Number
8: upgrade Rocker Arm's (Trunion Upgrade) <<<<< Part #
9: Valve Spring Kit <<<<< Matched with Valve Train Components
10: Lifters <<<<< Matched with Valve Train Components

add to this list as needed..

Good luck with moving forward to you're new power plant!

-Roger

[race29]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

No, if you change cam's in the car you have to upgrade the cam and go to 3 bolt cam gear and the LS2 tensioner, You are changing the valve train with this upgrade, The lob's on the cam is different then the one in the LS3, It comes on faster so there is more pressure on all parts so size up all parts to work together.

To do a cam right you need to upgrade all this parts.

1: Cam 3 bolt
2: cam gear (the right 3 bolt)
3: new tensioner (ls2 tensioner)
4: new Timing Chain (C5-R)
5: new Crank Bolt
6: new Pushrods
7: new Oil Pump (High volume)
8: upgrade Rocker Arm's (Trunion Upgrade)
9: Valve Spring Kit (to mach the cam)

This does not include the GM Gasket Kit needed and oil and filter, Now that you have pushed you stock bottom end close to its limit the next upgrade is to go forged, look at this pic.

Exactly! Stock is for stock. Costs more initially but saves the hearbreak of the carnage we've seen in this post. Hopefully!

[Tessa]

Aww you made it a little road tomb. :(

[WadeWilson]

Originally Posted by PQ

No, the lifters would have been covered. In fact, it's a TSB and known issue. But my warranty was gone long ago.

I'm upgrading the lifters, springs, rods, oil pump, tensioner, and the rest.

I've been thinking about upgrading my oil pump too. Guess that will now be next on my list....

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by Shardik2SS

I've been thinking about upgrading my oil pump too. Guess that will now be next on my list....

Still want to sell that block? May have a buyer!

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by RogerBzSS

1: Cam (3 bolt) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Matched Valve Train Components
2: cam gear (3 bolt) <<<<<< does GM make a 3 bolt gear ? or are there another MFG's?? Here is the gm part number for the right 3 bolt gear #12589481 and the 3 bolts #12556127
3: new tensioner (ls2 tensioner) <<<<<< GM Part # 12588670
4: Timing Chain (C5-R) <<<<<<<< Its not made by gm its made for them and not sold at dealers. Part # HME-G68V-2
5: Crank Bolt <<<<<<<< GM Part # 12557840
6: Pushrods <<<<< Matched with Valve Train Components
7: new Oil Pump (High volume) Melling Part Number 10296
8: upgrade Rocker Arm's (Trunion Upgrade) <<<<< Part # 13702-kit
9: Valve Spring Kit <<<<< Matched with Valve Train Components
10: Lifters <<<<< Matched with Valve Train Components
11: front oil seal GM# 12585673
12: Water pump Gasket GM# 12630223
13: front cover gasket GM# 12633904
add to this list as needed..

Good luck with moving forward to you're new power plant!

-Roger

Updated.

[WadeWilson]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

Still want to sell that block? May have a buyer!

[midnighter]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

I drove up to Oshawa for the Camaro homecoming from Chicago last week.

Got there safe and sound Thursday night, and Friday morning took the car down for a quick wash before hitting the show......a block away from the hotel, the car suffered " catastrophic engine failure " leaving a light and shifting from 1st into second. Pretty ironic to die blocks from where it was born.

Luckily, Kelly & Veteran 1 saved me by getting my car back home on his trailer.

Where it goes from here....I'm not sure...GM will try and blame the cam/tune, but the car has run flawlessly for over a year...some pretty serious carnage for an 8900 mile LS3.

Some pics of the damage, and it's place of death and it's memorial.

That's awful. You could upgrade to an LS9 if GM won't budge.

[tillroot1]

Man!!! sorry to see this. I can not even imagine it happening to me, I hope it all works out for the better for you. Good Luck, Ron Tilley

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by PQ

No, the lifters would have been covered. In fact, it's a TSB and known issue. But my warranty was gone long ago.

I'm upgrading the lifters, springs, rods, oil pump, tensioner, and the rest.

Understood, but for us droolingly envious under-500-HP drivers on the site who still have a warranty, there's the conundrum - fix a weak part but void your warranty doing so?

What would you guys do if you still had a warranty? What if you might be thinking of adding bolt-ons and maybe a tune but didn't think you'd hit supercharger-level power? This forum - so informative and so frustrating at the same time.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Shardik2SS

I've been thinking about upgrading my oil pump too. Guess that will now be next on my list....

And the thermostat if you do end up keeping that Whipple.

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Understood, but for us droolingly envious under-500-HP drivers on the site who still have a warranty, there's the conundrum - fix a weak part but void your warranty doing so?

What would you guys do if you still had a warranty? What if you might be thinking of adding bolt-ons and maybe a tune but didn't think you'd hit supercharger-level power? This forum - so informative and so frustrating at the same time.

Well, when stuff breaks, it's just a good reason to make it bigger and faster.

[mikeSS]

i know the OP went with a single bolt cam, what else didn't he do ? has he said ?