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OUR72GTO · 03-13-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fastball

If you are concerned with that perhaps you should improve your driving skills.... not trying to be a jerk, but really, is it that hard?

Gas caps belong on the driver's side no matter which country you drive in.

Come on ...that is a little too broad a claim. My GTO has it behind the rear plate in the bumper. Remember where it is on a 56 Chevy?

This is NOT the 1st time GM has had a gas lid on that side. One of the few distinctions between GM cars built in Canada and the same years built in the USA in the 30's and 40's was both sides were used.

I totally agree with the comments about Honda and Camry, but you went too far with the slam about other's driving skills.

themossman · 03-13-2009, 12:10 PM

I'll throw my .02c in...

I'm coming out of a $50k+ M3...so my expectations are high. That being said...my M3 had manual seats and no sunroof. I bought it because it was a sports car and I didn't understand people that cared so much about those things when I went to sell it...but hey...that's just me.

So...regarding the back seat. I need one for my kids. If they complain, I tell them to 'zip it'...but they don't complain...they're small and nimble and can get in and out just fine...life should be a challenge for them at this point.

most of the time they will be getting around in Mom's car anyway, which is a four door sedan (I've never 'understood' why everyone feels like they need to have an SUV). And if I need to cart around 4 or 5 adults...I take the wife's car and she takes mine...no big deal. A back seat that's easier to get in/out of results in different exterior dimensions...a trade I'm not willing to make.

Lighted/mirrors in the visor...well there's a lipstick joke in there somewhere and unless you're Batman's arch enemy I don't think you'll need 'em. Your confidence in yourself should outweigh the need for one last check...and you should have picked your nose before you left the house.

And the 'plastic' feel of the interior...well...I have to agree with you there. It(and the steering wheel) have been my major gripes about the vette for years and what has kept me out of one for the last two gens. I love how people worry so much about the exterior (especially color) when it's something you don't see 95% of the time...maybe it's just me but I spend most of my time driving the car. You spend nearly ALL your time on the inside holding onto the steering wheel and gear shift looking at all the stuff around you. IF the car comes close to the G6 I'll be pleased...that interior really pulled it off well...first GM I'd ever sat in where I couldn't tell I was in a GM.

and finally...chrome around the gauges... The m3 had simple chrome trim around each gauge and it gave it a certain amount of 'polish' the non M car clusters didn't have...and it wasn't distracting at all. The pic below shows it. Also...one of the 'coolest' features of the M's gauges was the rpm lights which you can see in the pic. They would be lit when you started the car, but slowly go out in sequence up the RPM range as the engine came to temp. A nice little reminder to take it easy on the engine until the oil was warmed up and circulating properly.

ArcAngel · 03-13-2009, 12:40 PM

Oh yea the Z has push button start & intelligent key too

OUR72GTO · 03-13-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DDustiNN

haha, I was going to do this too, but I hadn't finished reading the thread yet... good call!

No not at all. I really like whats in the fender now.

I am surprised that some one is not upset that there are no badges on the rear. Some would put that right up there with lighted mirrors on the visor.

*GTAHVIT* · 03-13-2009, 12:57 PM

This is not a 370Z thread. Take that converstaion where it belongs.

Not here.

ArcAngel · 03-13-2009, 12:58 PM

umm gtahvit when I posted that it was for the few posts back when we were discussing that car in this thread, it just took my iphone a few posts to finally get it in

Optimus Prime · 03-13-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcAngel

Yes I totally agree Optimus totally agree. By the way on a slightly related unrelated note did you see that Megatrons new toy is a 370Z LOL

Yeah, and I'd say it's fitting... LOL! But then, Optimus is GT-R. Oh well...

ArcAngel · 03-13-2009, 12:59 PM

hahahahaa yes i know

bobby35ny · 03-13-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DkknightX

I think a lot of people are misinformed as to what the back seats in sportscars actually represent. Those seats are actually a discount for automotive companies so they can sell their vehicles for a better price. Part of the gold standard, especially in luxury sports cars. My client has a beautiful Aston Martin he just had built and he too has two rear seats with beautiful leather interior, but literally, you cannot sit in them. The front seats do not fold to allow access to them. He confirmed from the actual guy that handbuilt his car in Britain that was indeed the reasoning behind this. This information is accurate and if I'm restating old information, I apologize, but I felt it needed to be said. You can't be pissed off at Chevy for making the rear seats difficult to get to and then make a gripe about it. Be thankful you have even limited functional rear seats.

For the record, Chevrolet/GM is only earning between $1000.00 to $3000.00 profit on a Camaro (Depending on Trim) assuming it was sold MSRP. So don't bitch and complain about ammenity issues. If you could afford to buy a Corvette, you should. Hell, I would too. You'd be crazy not to. How could you really compare the two cars? If you could afford to buy a Vette, why are you preaching to the choir about your issues with the new Camaro?

Because the wife has the dreaded minvan, I will will have the Camaro. Where do I put the 6yr old when we I pick him up from school...

=bobby

*GTAHVIT* · 03-13-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

umm gtahvit when I posted that it was for the few posts back when we were discussing that car in this thread, it just took my iphone a few posts to finally get it in

No, it's cool.

I just needed to throw it out there. For future posts.

No problem.

*GTAHVIT* · 03-13-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

Because the wife has the dreaded minvan, I will will have the Camaro. Where do I put the 6yr old when we I pick him up from school...

=bobby

I agree completely, regardless of how or why there is a back seat. I have to have one that will at least sit kids... I don't think I'm gonna keep the Mazda so the Camaro will be my daily driver... I'll need to have room for the kids when we go get icecream on Sat night...

bobby35ny · 03-13-2009, 01:08 PM

Now, I know somone will say it, so I'm saying it now, LOL... I Can't give up the kid!!

LOL

Supermans · 03-13-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtahvit

This is not a 370Z thread. Take that converstaion where it belongs.

Not here.

Yeah, this thread is about wether or not your tush feels comfortable or not in the Camaro, not the Z..

I have to admit, sitting in the car my tush did feel comfortable.

ArcAngel · 03-13-2009, 01:11 PM

I actually want to test drive the new mustang as well, they have a build your own up on the ford website why isnt there a build your own on Chevy??

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03-13-2009, 12:57 PM	#187
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03-13-2009, 12:58 PM	#188
ArcAngel Drives: 07 Black Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manalapan-NJ Posts: 2,872	umm gtahvit when I posted that it was for the few posts back when we were discussing that car in this thread, it just took my iphone a few posts to finally get it in __________________ Through HIM you believe in GOD, who raised HIM from the dead and Glorified him..

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03-13-2009, 12:10 PM	#184
themossman Apprehensive Optimist Drives: '10 SS/RS SIM Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: JAX Posts: 1,383	I'll throw my .02c in... I'm coming out of a $50k+ M3...so my expectations are high. That being said...my M3 had manual seats and no sunroof. I bought it because it was a sports car and I didn't understand people that cared so much about those things when I went to sell it...but hey...that's just me. So...regarding the back seat. I need one for my kids. If they complain, I tell them to 'zip it'...but they don't complain...they're small and nimble and can get in and out just fine...life should be a challenge for them at this point. most of the time they will be getting around in Mom's car anyway, which is a four door sedan (I've never 'understood' why everyone feels like they need to have an SUV). And if I need to cart around 4 or 5 adults...I take the wife's car and she takes mine...no big deal. A back seat that's easier to get in/out of results in different exterior dimensions...a trade I'm not willing to make. Lighted/mirrors in the visor...well there's a lipstick joke in there somewhere and unless you're Batman's arch enemy I don't think you'll need 'em. Your confidence in yourself should outweigh the need for one last check...and you should have picked your nose before you left the house. And the 'plastic' feel of the interior...well...I have to agree with you there. It(and the steering wheel) have been my major gripes about the vette for years and what has kept me out of one for the last two gens. I love how people worry so much about the exterior (especially color) when it's something you don't see 95% of the time...maybe it's just me but I spend most of my time driving the car. You spend nearly ALL your time on the inside holding onto the steering wheel and gear shift looking at all the stuff around you. IF the car comes close to the G6 I'll be pleased...that interior really pulled it off well...first GM I'd ever sat in where I couldn't tell I was in a GM. and finally...chrome around the gauges... The m3 had simple chrome trim around each gauge and it gave it a certain amount of 'polish' the non M car clusters didn't have...and it wasn't distracting at all. The pic below shows it. Also...one of the 'coolest' features of the M's gauges was the rpm lights which you can see in the pic. They would be lit when you started the car, but slowly go out in sequence up the RPM range as the engine came to temp. A nice little reminder to take it easy on the engine until the oil was warmed up and circulating properly.

03-13-2009, 01:11 PM	#196
ArcAngel Drives: 07 Black Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manalapan-NJ Posts: 2,872	I actually want to test drive the new mustang as well, they have a build your own up on the ford website why isnt there a build your own on Chevy?? __________________ Through HIM you believe in GOD, who raised HIM from the dead and Glorified him..

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