What is up with people hating on the V6?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by greenrail

I hate when That happens. Don't Drink and Cyber! LOL

[OminouSS]

This argument will be moot in 3-5 years as the V8's will probably only be available as special orders. The Market is for 4's & 6's and the factories are trying to attract the younger generation with smaller, more economical choices in the same 'fast' body styles as the pony cars. Gov't regulation and fuel prices are forcing this issue. Bubbye V8. I'm not sure it will matter with technology advancing the way is has. This 6 cyl engine in a CAR has more horsepower than GM offered 10 years ago in a full size V8 equipped TRUCK. That said - glad I got my LS3 while I could.

Originally Posted by black34v6

OP: I feel your pain (being a V6 owner - I got what I could at the time).

Coolman: It's not about "explaining" things away - it's more for the v8 owners benefit. perhaps if they understand our reasoning they wont be such jerks about it. Not all v8 owners are jerky about the size of the engine, but enough are to make it a hardship. I run a Camaro/Firebird club called West Coast F-Bodies.

You would think that tons of people would love to gather up and do events that are f-body specific (I don't always get a chance to update the website I created - but we do things quite often) but quite the contrary - upon learning that the co-founders of the club have v6 cars, they often leave and never come back, probably because they don't feel that they can identify with v6 owners because v6 "muscle" cars aren't really muscle cars at all.

The "do what you want with your car" is certain a grand gesture and a good idea - but far too often us v6 owners are ridiculed and singled out not only by the auto community at large, but by our own v8 brothers and sisters who own the same cars we do. It sucks when your "family" laughs at you and thinks down of you because you got a different engine than they did - because you are simply happy with your car.

And "living with it" is what it becomes. A sort of battle - at first you silently laugh at the jabs and the treatment because you pity the people that ridicule - but over time it gets stale and the little jokes become big irritations.

It's easy to say "learn to deal" but its not easy to do. It's frustrating to wonder why people are so intolerant of something that so closely resembles their own property.

I don't have an answer as to why it happens - but unfortunately the only advice I can give the OP is: "learn to accept it as a part of owning a v6". Just have to realize that you have a "little v6" that will take out most of the v8's on the road without much effort and be happy with that nugget of knowledge.

I hope this little bit helps - in any way possible. If you need to rant about v6 ownership feel free to PM me, I'll respond as soon as I can.

[WCFB-Russ]

Originally Posted by OminouSS

This argument will be moot in 3-5 years...

Why can't it be moot now? Why does it have to even be an argument. I mean seriously has our discontent grown to such leaps and bounds that we have to find outlets for it by ridiculing others about their property?

I mean you wouldn't walk out and tell your neighbor something is wrong with them because they bought a blue colored house would you - or maybe we should start telling people that "the structure they live in can't be called a house because its not over 1000 square feet."

Oh wait - this would be the best yet: "Because you only have one story, you don't live in a house, you live in a shack. Don't call it a house because it degrades the value of my home associating it with yours."

Do you people see the ridiculousness of the argument - I mean really. My car is less than yours because it has a smaller engine? - its not about being less it's about being different.

The "argument" needs to stop.

edit: I realize that came off a little .... heated - wasn't the intention. Just trying to make a point.

[SlingShot]

Originally Posted by black34v6

Why can't it be moot now? Why does it have to even be an argument. I mean seriously has our discontent grown to such leaps and bounds that we have to find outlets for it by ridiculing others about their property?

I mean you wouldn't walk out and tell your neighbor something is wrong with them because they bought a blue colored house would you - or maybe we should start telling people that "the structure they live in can't be called a house because its not over 1000 square feet."

Oh wait - this would be the best yet: "Because you only have one story, you don't live in a house, you live in a shack. Don't call it a house because it degrades the value of my home associating it with yours."

Do you people see the ridiculousness of the argument - I mean really. My car is less than yours because it has a smaller engine - its not about being less it's about being different.

The "argument" needs to stop.

You are right but unfortunately it's all controlled by the male ego the majority of times..... Ha HA .... mines bigger than yours ..... For some it's a way to make up for what they are lacking in other areas ...

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by PQ

M16 ain't all that great.

Jam Jam Jam

he's right thats why the M-20 is soooooooo much better.

[coolman]

Originally Posted by black34v6

Why can't it be moot now? Why does it have to even be an argument. I mean seriously has our discontent grown to such leaps and bounds that we have to find outlets for it by ridiculing others about their property?

I mean you wouldn't walk out and tell your neighbor something is wrong with them because they bought a blue colored house would you - or maybe we should start telling people that "the structure they live in can't be called a house because its not over 1000 square feet."

Oh wait - this would be the best yet: "Because you only have one story, you don't live in a house, you live in a shack. Don't call it a house because it degrades the value of my home associating it with yours."

Do you people see the ridiculousness of the argument - I mean really. My car is less than yours because it has a smaller engine? - its not about being less it's about being different.

The "argument" needs to stop.

edit: I realize that came off a little .... heated - wasn't the intention. Just trying to make a point.

I'm not sure the argument you make comparing houses it a good one. They do the kinds of things your talking about with houses. Now, in some places they tell you what colors you can use, how much square footage you can have, witch way the house will face, # of garages and etc.. And this all is to keep lessor homes out to keep valves at an even level. So, in some places 1000sq/ft is not considered a house and some colors aren't good enough. I still don't believe we should run down the v-6 people because that's what they choose to drive. I can see a v-8 guy explaining why he doesn't want a v-6 and the v-6 people shouldn't take offence to that. What made me mad last night was someone outright run down a person themselves and not there car and I felt compelled to say something. I'm glad to see the mods got rid all that.

[philipdistefano]

Originally Posted by black34v6

Why can't it be moot now? Why does it have to even be an argument. I mean seriously has our discontent grown to such leaps and bounds that we have to find outlets for it by ridiculing others about their property?

I mean you wouldn't walk out and tell your neighbor something is wrong with them because they bought a blue colored house would you - or maybe we should start telling people that "the structure they live in can't be called a house because its not over 1000 square feet."

Oh wait - this would be the best yet: "Because you only have one story, you don't live in a house, you live in a shack. Don't call it a house because it degrades the value of my home associating it with yours."

Do you people see the ridiculousness of the argument - I mean really. My car is less than yours because it has a smaller engine? - its not about being less it's about being different.

The "argument" needs to stop.

edit: I realize that came off a little .... heated - wasn't the intention. Just trying to make a point.

QFT.

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by black34v6

Why can't it be moot now? Why does it have to even be an argument. I mean seriously has our discontent grown to such leaps and bounds that we have to find outlets for it by ridiculing others about their property?

I mean you wouldn't walk out and tell your neighbor something is wrong with them because they bought a blue colored house would you - or maybe we should start telling people that "the structure they live in can't be called a house because its not over 1000 square feet."

Oh wait - this would be the best yet: "Because you only have one story, you don't live in a house, you live in a shack. Don't call it a house because it degrades the value of my home associating it with yours."

Do you people see the ridiculousness of the argument - I mean really. My car is less than yours because it has a smaller engine? - its not about being less it's about being different.

The "argument" needs to stop.

edit: I realize that came off a little .... heated - wasn't the intention. Just trying to make a point.

Well in my neighborhood you can't even build unless the house is 1700 square feet and larger. So yeah it happens, and also in my area you have to have a two car garage attached to the house also so yeah that point is moot.

An yeah a 1000 square home should not be called a house more like an apartment. hehe

[Foc-Dog]

I have a V6 and I am not about to try to explain why, I don't owe anyone an explanation.

My "friend" said "I wouldn't have gotten a V6." I probably could have gotten a V8 for a little more than what I paid for my baby, but then he would've probably said "I wouldn't have gotten a car without leather, or a sunroof, or the RS package." Even if I got a 2SS RS with every option available he probably would've said "For that type of money I would've gotten a Corvette."

My point is that most people drool over this car at first sight, regardless of the engine size, and when some guys realize that what you have looks better to them than what they have, they'll try to tear yours down in an effort to feel better about themselves, starting with the engine. Even if someone giving you grief has a V8,they undoubtedly wish it looked like your car (and if its an SS owner, shame on them)

Some people are just haters by nature, and can't stand to see someone with a smile on their face. By the way, my "friend" drives a Caprice.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by Foc-Dog

I have a V6 and I am not about to try to explain why, I don't owe anyone an explanation.

My "friend" said "I wouldn't have gotten a V6." I probably could have gotten a V8 for a little more than what I paid for my baby, but then he would've probably said "I wouldn't have gotten a car without leather, or a sunroof, or the RS package." Even if I got a 2SS RS with every option available he probably would've said "For that type of money I would've gotten a Corvette."

My point is that most people drool over this car at first sight, regardless of the engine size, and when some guys realize that what you have looks better to them than what they have, they'll try to tear yours down in an effort to feel better about themselves, starting with the engine. Even if someone giving you grief has a V8,they undoubtedly wish it looked like your car (and if its an SS owner, shame on them)

Some people are just haters by nature, and can't stand to see someone with a smile on their face. By the way, my "friend" drives a Caprice.

True.

But what I don't get is why some V6 Camaro owners are so sensitive and feel obliged to explain and rationalize why they got the V6 instead of the V8. I have respect for those who own a LS or LT that admit they "settled" for the V6 for whatever reasons but they really wanted the SS. That's all good.

But for most, if you bought a Camaro, you are a car person, it means you like sportscar/musclecars and if there were no reasons to prevent you from getting the SS, you certainly would have gotten the SS. Sure there is that small % of V6 owners who already have high-hp cars in their stable but they just want the new-look Camaro for daily duties.

I am not a V6 Camaro Hater. I love cars period. If you are happy with what you have, follow Donna's example. I respect that. When you start explaining and rationalizing why you have a V6, it just makes it obvious that you weighed your decision and you found yourself wanting.

Many of us here are true car guys/gals and one thing car guys/gals find annoying.....we find Poseours annoying. (sp?)

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

But what I don't get is why some V6 Camaro owners are so sensitive and feel obliged to explain and rationalize why they got the V6 instead of the V8.

Probably because so many people insult them/their cars over getting the V6. Which I utterly don't get. Many people w/ a V8 Camaro would be...shall we say, miffed...if someone came up to them and said, "For that kind of money, why didn't you go all the way & get the Vette?" ..yet they turn around & give the same treatment to V6 owners.

Many of us here are true car guys/gals and one thing car guys/gals find annoying.....we find Poseours annoying. (sp?)

Poseur or poser. *nods*

When you start explaining and rationalizing why you have a V6, it just makes it obvious that you weighed your decision and you found yourself wanting.

I disagree. Many people love their car, and WILL defend it just like a V8 owner might defend theirs. It doesn't automatically mean you "find yourself wanting" to tell others why you got the V6 - especially when so many people are asking why.

[greenrail]

I would never insult any Camaro V-6 Owner. They along with the rest of us worked darn hard to get their car.

To me, they are all good. If others can't accept that, then that is their problem.

Where else could you have such a wonderful looking automobile. Regardless of model.

I went through a lot of that with my 1998 SS Convertible. People always dissing it because it was an Automatic. What a crock of BS.

V-6, LS3, L99, Manual, or Auto! Celebrate and Enjoy this Beauty!

Anyone else is either jealous or plain ignorant! The heck with 'em!!!!

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Many people love their car, and WILL defend it just like a V8 owner might defend theirs.

V8 owners don't have to defend theirs. j/k Sorry I couldn't
resist.

[legrand]

I think the bottom line is if you wont a true muscle car get the v8. If you just want a nice car then the v6 might be your best deal. Who cares who's car is faster or what engine you have. Unless you drag race your car. It's childish to argue over this.

I have a friend at work that owns a Z06 corvette. He told me that his vette would run circles around my 2SS. So we raced and he won. Big deal right? Maybe maybe not. I went home and got my 87 Grand National. Came back and crushed him in a race.

The point is, if your into drag racing like I am. That would be a reason to get a v8 Camaro. Other wise the v6 is a great car at nearly half the price. And will still turn heads going down the road.