Z28 PRICE!? check this out!!!

[radz28]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

Ask Harley-Davidson. I'm sure they can and will explain it to you.

Basic economics - yes?... That's what I recall.

[2010SSRSM6]

Looking at the new Boss Mustang that will be more $$$ than my loaded 2SS/RS was, expecting a massive improvement in the GT 500 that is already @ $50k with any options, I can't see GM releasing the Z/28 any lower than the $50k price point.

The only way I can see that is if they strip out all the creature comforts like they did when the Z06 first came out. If they are going to market the Z/28 as a pure HP monster (ala Z06) then I think they are going to make those of us that are on the fence about trading "up" to the Z/28 pass.

I'm anxious to see just which direction GM takes the Camaro. With the more strict guidlines coming from CAFE, I can see a twin turbo smaller V8 or even V6 sitting under that more pronounced cowl just as easily as a big beefy V8/blower combo. Either way, I think the production #'s will be limited to 10k or so just to keep the company fuel average up.

[2010-1SS-IBM]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

Ask Harley-Davidson. I'm sure they can and will explain it to you.

Hmmm....

July 21, 2010 - Harley-Davidson reported in a public financial statement that they shipped 112,720 motorcycles in the first 6 months of 2010, a 15.2 percent decrease compared to last year’s 132,849 units for the period.

Revenue from motorcycles for the first two quarters was $1.64 billion, a 9.8 percent decrease compared to the year-ago period. Their General Merchandise category revenue was down 7.7% to $133.6 million compared to the same period in 2009.

H-D also reports an industry-wide U.S. heavyweight motorcycle (651cc-plus) retail unit sales decrease of 10.1% in the second quarter of 2010 compared to the year-ago period.

Through six months, worldwide retail sales of Harley-Davidson motorcycles decreased 10.7% compared to the prior-year period. U.S. retail sales of Harley-Davidson motorcycles decreased 15.3% for the first half of the year while the U.S. heavyweight market segment was down 14.7% for the same period, compared to the year-ago period.

[BigBlock427]

if the z28 is 45G ill very upset that i just order my 11 2ss/rs for 40

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

Hmmm....

Looks to me the decreased production by 15.2%....and sales only decreased by 10%.

SO hmmm is right.

[68/2010]

I'm happy w/ mine. They are paid for and I can always add goodies.

[Raab_Himself]

shouldnt the car that is currently available be the z28 and the upgrade should be the SS?

wtf

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Raab_Himself

shouldnt the car that is currently available be the z28 and the upgrade should be the SS?

wtf

Got a reason for that theory besides the 4th gen?

[2010-1SS-IBM]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

Looks to me the decreased production by 15.2%....and sales only decreased by 10%.

SO hmmm is right.

At that pace, they'll all be rich any day now and everyone will own a Harley!

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

At that pace, they'll all be rich any day now and everyone will own a Harley!

what good is it to have a surplus in product that isn't selling? you're losing money on that product every day it sits on your lot.

[nards444]

Originally Posted by radz28

Did I miss something somewhere? How do we know this?...

not practicle if you think about it. For one to make the cars even and because the camaro weighs more alone will mean the camaro will have to have 575ish hp to be even. blowing it out of the water is probably 600+hp, which i doubt.

[2010-1SS-IBM]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

what good is it to have a surplus in product that isn't selling? you're losing money on that product every day it sits on your lot.

At least you have a chance of making a sale with a surplus. You can't sell something that never was made.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by nards444

not practicle if you think about it. For one to make the cars even and because the camaro weighs more alone will mean the camaro will have to have 575ish hp to be even. blowing it out of the water is probably 600+hp, which i doubt.

The cts-v does quite well for weighting so much more then the shelby. So no matter what it will be a drivers race.

[tweeter81]

Originally Posted by nards444

not practicle if you think about it. For one to make the cars even and because the camaro weighs more alone will mean the camaro will have to have 575ish hp to be even. blowing it out of the water is probably 600+hp, which i doubt.

It's not quite that simple. There are other factors at play such as: gear ratios, size and type of tire (traction), suspension geometry, suspension softness, weight transfer that allows the rear end to squat, etc.

Weight to power ratios are useful, but fall far short of telling the whole story. Like what was just posted above, if that is all that mattered, the CTS-V would never have beaten the GT500 in a drag race...