Camaro SS vs. 370Z - Page 15 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

CrownR426 · 01-09-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Well normally id agree with you... but your comments on GM quality of materials makes it hard to believe that you really dissagree with nearly every review of the Z which noted its 'poor interior quality'

lol...
Can't argue with you on this one!
Yeah, the quality isn't good but it's a huge approvement!
But I'm not getting a sports car because it's "pretty inside".
As long as the sound system isn't so bad and the seats are comfy.
I'm good to go!

Dakota Kid · 01-09-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

Well... If you just want a DD I think the G37s is great.
My sister actually has one in manual.
I didn't expect a luxury car to be that fun.
Quality wise it's great.
It's pretty spacious too...
If I didn't care about daily driving I would settle for the Camaro easily.

Yes, I agree with you about a luxury car being that much fun...wow.

It will be my daily driver.

Captain Awesome · 01-09-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

Hmm apparently I havent, if GM's quality has gone up SHARPLY in the last serveral years why have they filed for bankruptcy? I understand it's a recession and all but shouldn't they be climbing up instead of tumbling down?
Don't get me wrong, I didn't come here to flame on GM and stuff. My dad and I restored a 69 camaro just before winter hit and it's a great car!

With people such as yourself who go around telling everyone how CRAP the quality of GM cars is without actually doing any research to see if this still holds true, how can you be surprised they are in trouble?

CrownR426 · 01-09-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

Yes, I agree with you about a luxury car being that much fun...wow.

It will be my daily driver.

Yeah, so just find out which will be more practical for you!
Honestly I wouldn't reccomend neither...
You want a DD... Look into 4wd cars.

CrownR426 · 01-09-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

With people such as yourself who go around telling everyone how CRAP the quality of GM cars is without actually doing any research to see if this still holds true, how can you be surprised they are in trouble?

I'm not talking crap...
I'm just telling the truth.

Captain Awesome · 01-09-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

I'm not talking crap...
I'm just telling the truth.

What was true in 1997 may change with time.

The fact you didn't bother to check before casting your verdict on the current model lineup shows the reason people that behave like you are considered "Trolls".

Moose · 01-09-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

I'm not talking crap...
I'm just telling the truth.

It may have been the truth in the past.

The public's perception that GM (or any domestic) is "crap", while true based on some of their offerings from the past, is a reason the big 3 are in the situation they are in.

You won't be able to refer to GM's products as "crap" in the near future.

Dakota Kid · 01-09-2009, 12:06 PM

Well, I am gonna wait till I can test drive a Camaro. I am a trust but verify kind of guy....

truth411 · 01-09-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pharmd

Man, there are alot of people who are blind out there...I'm getting a camaro, so yeah, I'm partial, BUT these cars are in the same league...forget # of seats, forget # of cylinders, forget small differences in skidpad, 1/4 mile, 0-60 etc forget all that, this is America home of the stoplight drag race...when someone is out for the first time in their new SS and they pull up next to a Z (who since it has been out longer may have several mods done to it), and the SS owner may get shamed. They ARE close in performance...sure I will mod my SS such that the Z owner is gonna need MAJOR stuff to out run me 1/4 mile, but alot of SS owners won't...I'd really have to say probably less Z owners will mod than SS owners (to me the Z is attracting a different buyer, dare I say a more sophisticated buyer, or maybe I should just say, one who is less likely to mod...if nothing else by reason that there is not nearly as strong an aftermarket, performance wise).

On a road course, I think the disparity will be even less. All those numbers really don't paint the whole picture...weight plays a big part in handling, braking AND acceleration...if the SS brakes don't fade on a track I will be very surprised. Hopefully, it will mimick the CTS-V track experience, which was flawless for the amount of weight the car carries. Even with that though, the Z car really is purpose designed for a road course. The shrunk the car in diminsions, because they new they were going to have to add hundreds of pounds in safety equipment and air bags, the end result was minimal weight gain over the 350Z. Add that to a more powerful motor and revised chassis tuning, and you have a tighter, better handling, better performing car.

Do you really plan to use the back seats?? I mean yeah, we have them in the SS, but to me, they are only for kids and emergencies, If you dont' get that, wait til you get a little older. I mean, there is no way, my 70 yr old dad will be climbing in the back to go for a ride, much less to go out to dinner. And I can't imagine any of my friends wives wanting to go to dinner or take a trip having to climb in the back at every stop, they'd just say, well let us drive our SUV instead. So saying the camaro is more practical, is like saying Bill Gates is richer than Warren Buffet...come on the front seats will be used 85% of the time for most of us out there (kids being the exception).

If I weren't buying an SS I would certainly consider a Z. It is very small, that I don't like, it would be a little claustraphobic in there for me, but I think it would be an outstandingly fun car to drive. People who are "hugging" the camaro need to get a grip and realize there ARE cars out there that will be close in performance, price, fun-to-drive factor etc, and the comparisions are FAIR. We made our choice to get a camaro, no reason to need to defend that, we'll all be happy with our cars and people who buy something else will be happy with what they have...Just don't try to race me in your 370Z...because I wont be stock and I WILL blow your doors off, but until then, I'll just have to crack you with my Trailblazer :-)

Why are there so many people out there with the idea that the camaro is just for the drag strip...eh hem... Guys the camaro has a IRS and close to 50/50 wieght distribution so lets use it!! When comparing cars it is Stock vs Stock that matter, and the 370Z avgerages mid 13's in the 1/4 mile, I am betting the Camaro SS will be High 12's and will be damn good in the corners. How can it not be when the sedan it is base off of the G8 GXP (Zeta I) already is very good.

GatorBlue371 · 01-09-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by truth411

Why are there so many people out there with the idea that the camaro is just for the drag strip...eh hem... Guys the camaro has a IRS and close to 50/50 wieght distribution so lets use it!! When comparing cars it is Stock vs Stock that matter, and the 370Z avgerages mid 13's in the 1/4 mile, I am betting the Camaro SS will be High 12's and will be damn good in the corners. How can it not be when the sedan it is base off of the G8 GXP (Zeta I) already is very good.

Camaro has better weight distrobution than the Z

truth411 · 01-09-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcAngel

I dont believe that feelings will get hurt but the Camaro underpinnings are world class Zeta 2 is gonna have amazing handling prowess. I believe the misinterpretation is the fact that people are categorizing this Camaro with MUSCLE CAR this is gonna be a completely different animal. All it shares with the past is the styling cues and a V8

+1 Exactly, The camaro is not really a muscle car, it is infact a modern 2+2 sports car with slightly retroish styling and a Muscle car heritage. Traditional muscle cars back in the 60's for the most part meant going fast in a straight line and terrible at everything else. There were some exceptions like the Z28 which could handle very well for the time. IRS alone breaks away form the traditional muscle car, and I think for the better.

truth411 · 01-09-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Camaro has better weight distrobution than the Z

I don't know what the weight distribution is for the Z, but they say the camaro SS will be 52/48 which is really close.

UCF w00t · 01-09-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by truth411

I don't know what the weight distribution is for the Z, but they say the camaro SS will be 52/48 which is really close.

54/46 front/rear

Design1stCode2nd · 01-09-2009, 01:08 PM

Its possible that there will be some overlap of buyers. I think the SS will be able to go toe to toe with the 370z and probably be able to out run or keep up with it on most any track. Now if you say an autoX circuit then I'll give the odds to the Z.

The Camaro will atract more buyers I think because it's not a two seater no matter how impractical a coupe can be.

It should also be easier to mod a Camaro as the VQ in the Z is probably near it's max while the LS3 in the Camaro is not.

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Dakota Kid Drives: 2010 2SS/RJT/L99 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,151	Well, I am gonna wait till I can test drive a Camaro. I am a trust but verify kind of guy....

01-09-2009, 01:08 PM	#210
Design1stCode2nd Drives: four wheels Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: usa Posts: 585	Its possible that there will be some overlap of buyers. I think the SS will be able to go toe to toe with the 370z and probably be able to out run or keep up with it on most any track. Now if you say an autoX circuit then I'll give the odds to the Z. The Camaro will atract more buyers I think because it's not a two seater no matter how impractical a coupe can be. It should also be easier to mod a Camaro as the VQ in the Z is probably near it's max while the LS3 in the Camaro is not.