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a_Username · 07-02-2011, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NicolasKL

You said you didn't think the 2011 running 120s traps was stock.

It's beyond obvious that he wasn't talking about the 2011s. His posts explicitly said he had no idea about the 2011s.

JusticePete · 07-02-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NicolasKL

I've honestly never seen a head to head review that the Camaro won. Are there any?

Take a good look at the drivers for the cars listed. John Buttermore holds many of the top slots at the track and was in both cars. John is the consummate professional.

Pedders invites press to our track events. We don't let the press drive our cars on track. We reserve that for our professional drivers. At one event we took two writers out on track in the base model Camaro. I personally asked them both if they would be comfortable running at race speeds on track or should we ask the driver to run at 7 or 8 tenths. Tell him to go all out. We are drivers and have done this many times. OK. We let it rip. They both declined rides in the modified cars.

ct06gto · 07-02-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Take a good look at the drivers for the cars listed. John Buttermore holds many of the top slots at the track and was in both cars. John is the consummate professional.

Pedders invites press to our track events. We don't let the press drive our cars on track. We reserve that for our professional drivers. At one event we took two writers out on track in the base model Camaro. I personally asked them both if they would be comfortable running at race speeds on track or should we ask the driver to run at 7 or 8 tenths. Tell him to go all out. We are drivers and have done this many times. OK. We let it rip. They both declined rides in the modified cars.

The 2010 mustang has the 4.6 in it. I believe he meant the newer 5.0 version and stock vs stock.
Motor trend, car and driver and road and track all picked the mustang as the winner but that dosnt mean all to much to me.

JusticePete · 07-02-2011, 12:28 PM

The 5.0 vs the SS is a dead heat at Gingerman. We ran the 5.0 with the optional Brembos and stick. It was 1 second faster than the SS with an Auto. At Gingerman that puts them in a dead heat. The new lighter weight block will absolutely help the Mustang by imporving balance and increasing the weight advantage over the Camaro.

SIXJAK · 07-02-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Take a good look at the drivers for the cars listed. John Buttermore holds many of the top slots at the track and was in both cars. John is the consummate professional.

Pedders invites press to our track events. We don't let the press drive our cars on track. We reserve that for our professional drivers. At one event we took two writers out on track in the base model Camaro. I personally asked them both if they would be comfortable running at race speeds on track or should we ask the driver to run at 7 or 8 tenths. Tell him to go all out. We are drivers and have done this many times. OK. We let it rip. They both declined rides in the modified cars.

So in other words: FORD.....Fifth or Fourteenth On Race Day.

JusticePete · 07-02-2011, 01:15 PM

SS to GT500 -- GT500
SS to GT -- Dead Heat / Driver's Race

On the other hand, the SS brakes were is great condition after our hot laps. The GT brakes were toast. We only got in 1.5 hot laps becaase the brakes on the GTo went away. The reas were literally gone and the front took a beating becuase of the rears. Granted our hot laps are HOT, it was dissapointing to see the Brembo upgraded GT brakes melt away that quickly.

KungFuHamster · 07-02-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

The 5.0 vs the SS is a dead heat at Gingerman. We ran the 5.0 with the optional Brembos and stick. It was 1 second faster than the SS with an Auto. At Gingerman that puts them in a dead heat. The new lighter weight block will absolutely help the Mustang by imporving balance and increasing the weight advantage over the Camaro.

the 5.0's block is about the same weight as the 3V so there are no weight savings there. if it does weigh less, its only about 5 lbs.

rowerybo · 07-02-2011, 03:47 PM

In all honesty you have to drive them to tell. The mustang is a lighter ligher car and rightfully feels so behind the wheel, however it is also smaller and I felt cramped.
Speed is a drivers race.

JusticePete · 07-02-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KungFuHamster

the 5.0's block is about the same weight as the 3V so there are no weight savings there. if it does weigh less, its only about 5 lbs.

Block I wise I was thinking about the aluminum GT500.

KungFuHamster · 07-02-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Block I wise I was thinking about the aluminum GT500.

thats what i get for not reading the whole thread lol

too used to the whole "new 5.0 vs SS" stuff

carry on!

a_Username · 07-03-2011, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NicolasKL

The specific car that he was saying wasn't stock is a 2011, so I really fail to see how it's beyond obvious he wasn't talking about 2011s. HE WAS talking about a 2011. Yes, later, he said he wasn't (erroneously, i.e. he didn't know what he was talking about). But, he was. Take it as you will.

It never crossed your mind that he thought that car was a 2010, considering your ambiguous wording led him to believe you posted a run of a 2010? I.e., he was talking about 2010s, and you posted a video of a 2011. His second post you responded to explicitly said he had no idea about the 2011s, but he gave his (true) reasoning to why a stock 2010 GT500 would never see that MPH. He only doubted the run because he did not think it could happen without the car putting down 500 rwhp, and he knew that the 2010 (and below) GT500s were not 500 rwhp cars. So, after he realized it wasn't a 2010 then he conceded it could happen. It's really not that hard to figure out.

Eric's Blue · 07-03-2011, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sixty4

Thinking about pulling the trigger. My problem is a friend owns a 2ss and says its kind of boring? I drove it not all that bad. Says the performance is just not there? If he had to do it again said he would go with a Mustang.
So my problem is a Camaro SS or a Mustang GT? Honest opinions please!

NOT trying to start WWIII. Just if given a choice would you purchase a Camaro agian?

This is a very loaded question.. we have ways of dealing with dissenters :-P

GEEo · 07-03-2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah

Lol! You come to a Camaro forum to ask this question, you can guarantee what were all going to say...

+1! WTH man? isn't it obvious what answers your gunna get from us? lol

JusticePete · 07-03-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NicolasKL

Pretty sure it was beyond obvious I'm talking about the 2011s. Want to compare the 2010 Camaro to a 2004 Mustang while you're at it?

FYI Car #20 on the list is 2011 with Brembo Upgrade Bone stock

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07-02-2011, 12:28 PM	#200
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,170	The 5.0 vs the SS is a dead heat at Gingerman. We ran the 5.0 with the optional Brembos and stick. It was 1 second faster than the SS with an Auto. At Gingerman that puts them in a dead heat. The new lighter weight block will absolutely help the Mustang by imporving balance and increasing the weight advantage over the Camaro.

07-02-2011, 01:15 PM	#202
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,170	SS to GT500 -- GT500 SS to GT -- Dead Heat / Driver's Race On the other hand, the SS brakes were is great condition after our hot laps. The GT brakes were toast. We only got in 1.5 hot laps becaase the brakes on the GTo went away. The reas were literally gone and the front took a beating becuase of the rears. Granted our hot laps are HOT, it was dissapointing to see the Brembo upgraded GT brakes melt away that quickly.

07-02-2011, 03:47 PM	#204
rowerybo Drives: explorer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FL Posts: 214 View My Garage	In all honesty you have to drive them to tell. The mustang is a lighter ligher car and rightfully feels so behind the wheel, however it is also smaller and I felt cramped. Speed is a drivers race.