Dealer uses My sold order to stock Showroom

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by dbotsfordtat

You shouldn't have accepted your deposit back. In some instances that can legally null and void your contract rights.
F*cking scumbag dealers, theres no point to your existence. You are dead weight driving up the price of a product and not increasing the value at any level. Future generations of car enthusiasts will look back on this and ask-" Daddy, whats a car salesman? A car salesman was an unethical nightmare that lived under the bed and would come out and price gouge uninformed consumers until the internet made them go away. Now go to sleep."

I hate to say it but you may have just shot yourself in the foot.

As long as you had the deposit on it, you had a good case. Now you took the depost back, they can say you willingly backed out of the deal. If they lied to you like they just did, what's to stop them from lieing to the court? They can easily just say you backed out, they called these other guys and told them the car was for sale, they bought it, you had second thoughts and came back and the car was sold and there's nothing they could do, so you got mad and concocted this story.

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by b4z

email fbodfather and chevy customer service.
You have legal rights here.
You have a contract. they HAVE to sell the car to you for what you agreed to.
If the dealer wants to offer you money to buy out the contract and your okay with that, that is fine.
BUt he has to sell the car to you for the agreed amount.

This was done already,
I hope that I will get a reply. I can't type for crap, sorry it take soooo long to reply!

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by McGruff

I know that everyone here wants you to run to the media with this, but I say don't. This is a sad story but I'd just let it go...keep walking and don't turn around.

Karma dictates they'll get there's in due time. It's not worth YOUR time and effort to have to deal with them anymore.

You're nuts. Karma dictates that you make a HUGE STINK and draw attention to these crooks!

Think of it as warning all potential customers they could be screwed! By raising hell, you're actually doing the RIGHT thing and helping your fellow man!

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I hate to say it but you may have just shot yourself in the foot.

As long as you had the deposit on it, you had a good case. Now you took the depost back, they can say you willingly backed out of the deal. If they lied to you like they just did, what's to stop them from lieing to the court? They can easily just say you backed out, they called these other guys and told them the car was for sale, they bought it, you had second thoughts and came back and the car was sold and there's nothing they could do, so you got mad and concocted this story.

Ha ha,
Would that make sense that I waited for seven months to get my car, checking regularly to monitor its progress, drive multiple times to finalize the deal, arrange payment from my credit union, and then sit down and say...wellll, guy's I really don't see a problem, but I don't want the car. Reminds me of a story. Gee officer, I was in this room with only this guy present. He was running around with sissors (and ya know his mom told him not to when he was a kid). And damn if she wasn't right. The poor fool fell on the sissors 57 times and killed himself. If the judgement is in favor of Putnam with the facts presented. I don't think my deposit left there would have mattered much. I mean they could also lie that I refused my money back, because I thought they should keep it for doing such a good job. Or better yet, that I knew the deposit was a non-refundable one (not the case).

Yes, I probably should have left my cash there. It would have been legally smarter, but I felt like I was eating a crap sandwhich. To get the BAD taste out of my mouth, and just get my money back and walk. I am encouraged by all the great members of this forum, and I will do what I can to help other people from getting hosed. I am still working on other things, but primarily...I still want a 2010 SS.
Thanks again for all the support and great suggestions

[Steve43]

Saving41, First off I am so sorry to hear about what happened to you, You have helped others by posting your story.

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by MikeZ28

I sent my "two cents" in to Putnam. I have friends in the Bay Area who are looking at cars, they won't be buying there unless this situation gets resolved favorably.

Thanks Mike,
Unfortunately... I don't think it will be resolved for me. I have walked away from Putnam and would never do business with them again. Your friends may be treated well by them, especially if there comes a time when the cars are not in such high demand. A car sitting on the lot for a few months would probably sell for the agreed price. But if that were the case, I would finalize the deal as soon as possible, pay and drive away. If there is a time delay, given recent history, and the Market Adjusts again in favor of Putnams bottom like...well then it's time to worry.
thanks again!

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by Steve43

Saving41, First off I am so sorry to hear about what happened to you, You have helped others by posting your story.

Then I feel better, wouldn't want another person walking into Putnam without their eyes wide open. At least knowing what can happen.
Thanks Steve43

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by 2010SSRSM6

Go to the DMV and file a complaint. Also, have you filed a complaint with the BBB yet?

On the long to do list!

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by Hollywod

I sent an email to the dealer today. Sorry to hear about what happened but applaud you for walking out.

Guess when I go to pick mine up I will have to take 20 of my brothers from my MC. Doubt they will jerk me around then.

Thanks hollywod,

I know all dealer are not like this ...to bad all the great ones on this forum can't clone themselves.

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by Thrillz

If this trend continue's its only a matter of time before some guy will lose it and trash a dealers place up. Things are bad out there putting salt in some guys wounds just is not a good idea. I dont know how i would re-act if this happened but id prob look for the most expensive car in this dealers show room and give it the boot then give them the middle finger.

I know what your saying, but there are things worth going to jail for...wouldn't give them the satisfaction of having them place me in the gray bar motel. I just wonder if they are getting the message that treating a customer in the fashion they treated me is HURTING their business. Sure they may have gotten more for my 1 car, but if they lost as little as 3 sales at MSRP...what did they really gain? That's what is hard for me to figure out.

[Stevo]

41, you did the right thing...walk tall...I stand ready to do the same when my time comes.

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by jking

Saving 41, what Putnam did to you was so unethical that it's unbelievable. And I agree with everyone on here that you need to file a complaint with the BBB, contact the media, raise a stink, etc. I don't really agree with smashing up their other cars on the lot, but that's just my opinion.


That's pretty much how I feel, and the possibe course of action for me.

Anyway, I got to thinking about all this. I am certainly no expert in how the automotive indrustry works, but isn't GM a part of this problem? I mean, there is so much anticipation with this car, and GM is doling out a few here, a few there. With the smaller dealerships, they aren't getting that many to begin with, so when they do, I can almost understand why they are marking up. Consider the dealerships that are charging up to 15K over MSRP. Because there's so much anticipation over this car, there are those out there who have money that they'll pay through the nose to get one! As long as there are people like that around, this problem that Saving41 went through will only continue.

I really can't bring myself to blame GM. I tried to consider how they could have released the cars in a different way. Since they can't make 15K cars in a day, pay for all the materials to manufacteur them, hold them all until they were all 100% ready (QC checks and the fixes as needed),and ship them so that everyone would get theirs the same day. There would always be someone willing to pay more for getting the car earlier than everyone else. So I guess GM came up with their best plan, and went with it warts and all.


But again though, GM sending out one here, one there to the dealerships, especially to the smaller ones, it's no wonder dealers are doing whatever they can to make a buck. Is it unethical? Of course it is!!! But it's business, and ethics don't mean squat when businesses have an opportunity to make a quick buck. I've also been reading that dealerships might not see them again for months, which only adds to the problem.

Exactly!

Still though, Saving41, give 'em hell! You know you have all our support! Selling your car that you ordered back in October to someone else because you didn't want to pay more than the agreed on price is simply astounding!

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by Stevo

41, you did the right thing...walk tall...I stand ready to do the same when my time comes.

Stevo, I really hope you don't find the occaision to do so.
I hope you car gets to you soon!

[Saving41]

Originally Posted by LabRat

41

If your even in the thread today (I think I would be Fishing/Drinking) please don't forget to at least do a phone complaint to your States Attorney General.


KUDOS to you for not letting them stick it in you.

Here is to hoping your next deal is for $150 over invoice!

LabRat

Thanks LabRat Have a great weekend