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Old 06-22-2011, 05:16 PM   #211
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people can believe what they want to believe, rwhp numbers are what count...however where people get messed up is when comparing rwhp numbers from a mustang dyno vs a dynojet reading. the mustang dynos generally spit out a lower number than the dynojets, so people automatically assume the car on the mustang dyno has less power than the car on the dynojet. this argument will never end!
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:12 PM   #212
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people can believe what they want to believe, rwhp numbers are what count...however where people get messed up is when comparing rwhp numbers from a mustang dyno vs a dynojet reading. the mustang dynos generally spit out a lower number than the dynojets, so people automatically assume the car on the mustang dyno has less power than the car on the dynojet. this argument will never end!
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:54 PM   #213
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Not to mention, underrating was a thing back in the 60s and 70s when car companies really had to worry about insurance companies, safety lobbies, and getting their cars to qualify for factory stock racing with less than actual numbers... none of these things really apply today and SAE certified is about as accurate as you can get.

Besides Dodge would have everything to loose by underrating their engine when compared to some very tough competition IMHO
98-02 f-bodies were under rated
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:17 PM   #214
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My younger brother just bought a 392 Challenger a few weeks ago. Man this is a nice car. Here it is next to my baby.
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:37 AM   #215
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They both look really sharp and I like your stripes but please tell your brother to loose the front plate.
I thought the new SRT8's had no chrome on the grille?

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Old 06-23-2011, 12:44 AM   #216
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If it was ~350 pounds lighter and they had a nicer looks package for the V6, AND it was priced more appropriately, I would have probably picked up the Challenger instead.

Camaro DOES look better but Challenger looks more like an old school muscle car with a new school flow. Whereas Camaro is a new school car with an old muscle car flow. If that makes any sense to anyone...
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:43 AM   #217
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I HATE how the Chally looks like the wheels are so lost under the body. Needed a wider stance for sure....it KILLS the look for me....just my opinion..

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Old 06-23-2011, 07:30 AM   #218
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:21 AM   #219
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If it was ~350 pounds lighter and they had a nicer looks package for the V6, AND it was priced more appropriately, I would have probably picked up the Challenger instead.

Camaro DOES look better but Challenger looks more like an old school muscle car with a new school flow. Whereas Camaro is a new school car with an old muscle car flow. If that makes any sense to anyone...
Um, when it comes to V6s the Camaro and Challenger are VERY close in weight and the 11s offer a package that gives it the 20 inch rims, better suspension and brakes and all 11 Challengers have dual exhausts and the dealer can add one of 2 spoilers.
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They both look really sharp and I like your stripes but please tell your brother to loose the front plate.
I thought the new SRT8's had no chrome on the grille?



The most being the Mustang Cobra Jet
Nope still got the chrome......Although the IE is painted body color.
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:20 AM   #221
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I HATE how the Chally looks like the wheels are so lost under the body. Needed a wider stance for sure....it KILLS the look for me....just my opinion..

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i agree with the lost wheels part...the challenger needs 20"s for it to look proportionally right to me as well. its already a pretty wide car however, but looking at it from the back, the stock tires are not nearly meaty enough width wise. bean counters strike again there!

not enough to kill looks for me though!
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i agree with the lost wheels part...the challenger needs 20"s for it to look proportionally right to me as well. its already a pretty wide car however, but looking at it from the back, the stock tires are not nearly meaty enough width wise. bean counters strike again there!

not enough to kill looks for me though!
Agreed....wider sticker rubber is on my shortlist...and a drop
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