This is how Chevy treats my $45,000 "track ready" car - Page 16 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

gajagfan · 01-15-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CHMSC

Even if your wheels are spotless aka rubber free. Any car that has been driven on a track has tire wear that is not something you would get from driving on a road or even extremely spirited driving. It's easy to spot even thousands of miles of street driving after a track day. If you know what to look for its easy to spot.

Your comments, and the pictures in the next post are correct if the car is taken in shortly after the track day. Put 200 street miles on the car after said track day and I suggest you will not be able to tell. Am I wrong?

CHMSC · 01-15-2015, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gajagfan

Your comments, and the pictures in the next post are correct if the car is taken in shortly after the track day. Put 200 street miles on the car after said track day and I suggest you will not be able to tell. Am I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong. For instance after my last track day running PSS I put on 13-15,000 miles of street driving on them. After that they needed to be replaced. If you knew what to look for you could tell I used them on the track. The outside edges were still feathered badly from the road course. If you didn't know what to look for you might mistake it for driving with very low air pressure or a bad alignment.

backeddy · 01-15-2015, 05:30 PM

You can tell in a second look at my "daily driver" tires. 1000 miles since track day.

Nor Cal ZL1 · 01-15-2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cornerspeed92

No they aren't charging me for the up grades i bought. He said they had to take her apart anyway. My service manager is the one that told me about the 1LE, i saw the pic on the brochure feel madly in love

and had ordered her less then a week later. Despite what some have said, yes the car should be warranted(not wearable items)and is. The service manager even reminded the field engineer"this is marketed as a track car"

Mark good to read.

This is how a good dealership would have handled the case.

Camaro Dude · 01-15-2015, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gajagfan

I think the best way to deal with this is if you track your car, keep it to yourself. Do not announce to the dealer that you do so, and when you do in, make the car look as much as possible like a daily driver. In my opinion, the dealer will then evaluate the problem form that standpoint. Any amount of pride you felt explaining to the dealer how good your lap time was will surely be lost when it affects his evaluation of your car. If abuse is involved, then you are still potentially out of luck.

OR you can call AL up, as he sais to do at 2:13

http://youtu.be/BZh_MhccwCU

Jc's1LE posted that link earlier in the previous page, but no one commented on the phone thing.

cornerspeed92 · 01-15-2015, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by White_SS/RS

post #422 from thead link above

Clutch is good, actuating (hydraulic) system is not! Cornerspeed, I know you were going to upgrade the the master and slave, do you think they will warranty the labor on this issue and install your items?

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Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

OR you can call AL up, as he sais to do at 2:13

http://youtu.be/BZh_MhccwCU

Jc's1LE posted that link earlier in the previous page, but no one commented on the phone thing.

Exactly what i said!

Camaro Dude · 01-15-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cornerspeed92

Exactly what i said!

In that case I'll give you the credit where due!

+1

Jc's1LE · 01-15-2015, 07:42 PM

I think it depends on the dealership because mine put all my mods on for me also told me when i had my Z28 splitter on dont take it to the track without putting the rear Z spoiler on so. I will call them and ask about this track stuff see what he says.

cornerspeed92 · 01-15-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

In that case I'll give you the credit where due!

+1

Oh yeah, nice find!

backeddy · 01-15-2015, 08:28 PM

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OR you can call AL up, as he says to do at 2:13

Even I missed that! lol....I hope the Zl1 comes with Al's number in the owners manual. "is that a proteco-plate? .......nope, a warranty card with Al's direct line"

Jc's1LE · 01-15-2015, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

Even I missed that! lol....I hope the Zl1 comes with Al's number in the owners manual. "is that a proteco-plate? .......nope, a warranty card with Al's direct line"

LMAO !!! but he did say its covered at the track i think the other guy even said what if the motor blows up is that covered?? YUP

hcsi99 · 01-16-2015, 08:30 AM

I can't stress enough how important it is to have a good relationship with your dealer. I also understand it is a two way street. You could be totally up front with your service department and they could still be total dicks. The best advice I can give you is to start doing some research on your local GM dealers. My store is a Cadillac store, but we can do any GM warranty work. We have very open minded advisors. We are likely to give you the benefit of the doubt, and warranty something at least once, but this is very case by case. We also make our decision based on the customer too. You catch more flies with honey, just remember that.
I had a customer a few years ago with a first generation V that saw a lot of track time. The calipers had turned brown, lots of rock chips, but a very well maintained car. He changed all the drive line fluids at least once a year, and was very good about oil changes. His car was towed in with an internal failure in the rear diff. We warrantied it, no questions asked, GM paid for it, no questions asked, and he didn't come back with it broken again. If he was back next week with the same problem then I'm sure there would be a red flag.
I didn't read all 5 pages of this thread, but call Chevrolet customer service. Tell them your problem. Tell them you would like to see another dealer. If you find a dealer that you think will help you, let them know when you call, and they will help to set up an appointment. Keep a level head and I think it will get you much further. Good luck!

Lee

gajagfan · 01-16-2015, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMSC

Yes, you are wrong. For instance after my last track day running PSS I put on 13-15,000 miles of street driving on them. After that they needed to be replaced. If you knew what to look for you could tell I used them on the track. The outside edges were still feathered badly from the road course. If you didn't know what to look for you might mistake it for driving with very low air pressure or a bad alignment.

Thanks!

gajagfan · 01-16-2015, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

You can tell in a second look at my "daily driver" tires. 1000 miles since track day.

Thanks!

01-15-2015, 05:30 PM	#213
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01-16-2015, 08:30 AM	#222
hcsi99 Cadillac Service Manager Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS, 1LE, NPP, RECAROS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 672 View My Garage	I can't stress enough how important it is to have a good relationship with your dealer. I also understand it is a two way street. You could be totally up front with your service department and they could still be total dicks. The best advice I can give you is to start doing some research on your local GM dealers. My store is a Cadillac store, but we can do any GM warranty work. We have very open minded advisors. We are likely to give you the benefit of the doubt, and warranty something at least once, but this is very case by case. We also make our decision based on the customer too. You catch more flies with honey, just remember that. I had a customer a few years ago with a first generation V that saw a lot of track time. The calipers had turned brown, lots of rock chips, but a very well maintained car. He changed all the drive line fluids at least once a year, and was very good about oil changes. His car was towed in with an internal failure in the rear diff. We warrantied it, no questions asked, GM paid for it, no questions asked, and he didn't come back with it broken again. If he was back next week with the same problem then I'm sure there would be a red flag. I didn't read all 5 pages of this thread, but call Chevrolet customer service. Tell them your problem. Tell them you would like to see another dealer. If you find a dealer that you think will help you, let them know when you call, and they will help to set up an appointment. Keep a level head and I think it will get you much further. Good luck! Lee __________________

01-15-2015, 07:42 PM	#218
Jc's1LE Drives: 2015 SW 1LE BA NPP Recaros Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: lake mary FL Posts: 904	I think it depends on the dealership because mine put all my mods on for me also told me when i had my Z28 splitter on dont take it to the track without putting the rear Z spoiler on so. I will call them and ask about this track stuff see what he says.