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2010 SSRS · 03-31-2010, 08:15 AM

I want to see the dyno screen with the numbers and the 1/4 mile clock with the times on it, 435 to the wheels on a 412 HP engine, lol

BlackinBlack · 03-31-2010, 08:42 AM

As a guy that has owned a ton of Mustangs the performance numbers look nice but they are close between the cars. To me it looks like the Stang is a little more cranked up from the factory.

Here are a few things I would like to know.

1) What will be the numbers for a base GT without the track pack, bigger rims, bigger brakes, and lower gears. (The top end version is the one Ford has been giving to reviewers.) One things about a Camaro is a SS1 has the same performance spec as a SS2 just not all the interior goodies. My guess is a top trim Mustang will be slightly faster, slightly better handling, and stop a few feet quicker than a Camaro; BUT the base will be slightly slower (due to higher gearing), slightly worst handling and stop a few feet longer. If the go fast options did not effect Mustang performance they would not be worth much. There should be a difference. So performance could be a wash depending on trim. It will also be interesting to see if this new 5.0 opens up like the LS3. As many Camaro owners know the LSx motors get stronger as the break in. The 5.0 could get faster as time goes by.... or the performance difference may shrink as the LS3 gets stronger and the 5.0 does not.

2) How maxed out is this new 5.0 motor. Once tuners get their hands on them it will be interesting. Again the LS3 with a few mods and a blower will push over 600 crank HP. Will the 5.0 scale like that or is it closer to its limit. If so stock for stock the Mustang is faster but a few mods and the Camaro could take a lead again. Time will tell on this.

For me the Camaro was an easy choice as it is IMO by far the best looking pony car made in the last 20 years. It looks like a Million dollars and even though they are common I still get a ton of looks, and smiles. The Mustang does not even come close in this department. The Camaro is a concept car on the road the stang looks boring in comparison. (and plain ugly from the rear.) I personally like the 05-09 Mustang body style better than the current.

Taz_FL · 03-31-2010, 09:17 AM

I think it's a pretty good looking car. If I had the money i would own one along with my camaro.

ron10 · 03-31-2010, 09:53 AM

i think the factory has derated the HP for whatever reason.i think ford has done a very good job in developing this new engine.yes this engine was developed to compete with the 2010 camaro.like it or not this car runs good.hopefully GM will do upgrades on the 2011,to compete.i hate to say it,but right now we are going to get spanked.

toesuf94 · 03-31-2010, 10:12 AM

I love the grabber blue...and this car is not ugly...just really common. It looks old already.

With that said; I would drive it!

Stew · 03-31-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

That's what they said in the '70's, too, and look where we are today.

Well, i think we will still have good performance cars, just not with these larger displacement V8s.

hypurone · 03-31-2010, 10:18 AM

Means absolutely nothin to me. I have the car I want!! And a car that is unmistakable and everyone looks twice at. Not sure that last part is a good thing but so far it has made me smile/laugh when people do stupid things looking at it....

The new mustang looks just like the other ones to me and most everyone else. Sure there are subtle styling changes but if you wanna barf when looking at it, you are not gonna look long enough to see them! OK, that might have been a little harsh but I'm a ChevyMan!!

ULTRAZLS1 · 03-31-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rayhawk

Well, I believe the mileage numbers for the mustangs are rated with the numerically lower rear end ratios, then the performance is rated with the higher ratios. GM could do the same little trick to increase performance a bit and advertise the same mpg numbers.

Yep.

0-60n4.6 · 03-31-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDan

Actually it runs 0-60 mph in 4.3 seconds.

hahaha he said 0-60n4.6 because that is my screen name he was complementing me on my mustang

ptim · 03-31-2010, 12:33 PM

Sorry if its a re post.

a_Username · 03-31-2010, 12:36 PM

Yeah it's a repost. Seems like there has been a lot of mustang owners joining the site after finally having a respectable GT.

ptim · 03-31-2010, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_Username

Yeah it's a repost. Seems like there has been a lot of mustang owners joining the site after finally having a respectable GT.

I joined this site to get info on the new Camaro, I really like them, I'm looking to trade my Mach 1 for one.

a_Username · 03-31-2010, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptim

I joined this site to get info on the new Camaro, I really like them, I'm looking to trade my Mach 1 for one.

I wasn't implying only you, just been happening a lot recently lol.

Enator · 03-31-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by a_Username

I wasn't implying only you, just been happening a lot recently lol.

ehhhe me one of that "lot" it seems to be LOL but I am going to chose between these two care... let best car wins LOL

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03-31-2010, 08:15 AM	#2283
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,186 View My Garage	I want to see the dyno screen with the numbers and the 1/4 mile clock with the times on it, 435 to the wheels on a 412 HP engine, lol __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

03-31-2010, 08:42 AM	#2284
BlackinBlack Drives: 2016 Corvette Z06 Blade Silver Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 822	As a guy that has owned a ton of Mustangs the performance numbers look nice but they are close between the cars. To me it looks like the Stang is a little more cranked up from the factory. Here are a few things I would like to know. 1) What will be the numbers for a base GT without the track pack, bigger rims, bigger brakes, and lower gears. (The top end version is the one Ford has been giving to reviewers.) One things about a Camaro is a SS1 has the same performance spec as a SS2 just not all the interior goodies. My guess is a top trim Mustang will be slightly faster, slightly better handling, and stop a few feet quicker than a Camaro; BUT the base will be slightly slower (due to higher gearing), slightly worst handling and stop a few feet longer. If the go fast options did not effect Mustang performance they would not be worth much. There should be a difference. So performance could be a wash depending on trim. It will also be interesting to see if this new 5.0 opens up like the LS3. As many Camaro owners know the LSx motors get stronger as the break in. The 5.0 could get faster as time goes by.... or the performance difference may shrink as the LS3 gets stronger and the 5.0 does not. 2) How maxed out is this new 5.0 motor. Once tuners get their hands on them it will be interesting. Again the LS3 with a few mods and a blower will push over 600 crank HP. Will the 5.0 scale like that or is it closer to its limit. If so stock for stock the Mustang is faster but a few mods and the Camaro could take a lead again. Time will tell on this. For me the Camaro was an easy choice as it is IMO by far the best looking pony car made in the last 20 years. It looks like a Million dollars and even though they are common I still get a ton of looks, and smiles. The Mustang does not even come close in this department. The Camaro is a concept car on the road the stang looks boring in comparison. (and plain ugly from the rear.) I personally like the 05-09 Mustang body style better than the current. __________________ 2016 2LZ Z06 Blade Silver 2013 ZL1 BLACK on BLACK <SOLD> Roto-Fab CAI 2010 2SS/RS BLACK on BLACK <SOLD> 3" MBRP 304 Stainless Exhaust Roto-Fab CAI

03-31-2010, 09:17 AM	#2285
Taz_FL Drives: 1LT/RS Yellow/Black Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 734	I think it's a pretty good looking car. If I had the money i would own one along with my camaro. __________________

03-31-2010, 10:12 AM	#2287
toesuf94 Drives: THR #11 E-force supercharged Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 4,746	I love the grabber blue...and this car is not ugly...just really common. It looks old already. With that said; I would drive it! __________________ Cars and women are both going to give you problems...but you can pay somebody else to fix your car!

03-31-2010, 09:53 AM	#2286
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	i think the factory has derated the HP for whatever reason.i think ford has done a very good job in developing this new engine.yes this engine was developed to compete with the 2010 camaro.like it or not this car runs good.hopefully GM will do upgrades on the 2011,to compete.i hate to say it,but right now we are going to get spanked.

03-31-2010, 10:18 AM	#2289
hypurone I'm not totally useless.. Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ... Posts: 2,008 View My Garage	Means absolutely nothin to me. I have the car I want!! And a car that is unmistakable and everyone looks twice at. Not sure that last part is a good thing but so far it has made me smile/laugh when people do stupid things looking at it.... The new mustang looks just like the other ones to me and most everyone else. Sure there are subtle styling changes but if you wanna barf when looking at it, you are not gonna look long enough to see them! OK, that might have been a little harsh but I'm a ChevyMan!! __________________ "You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo

03-31-2010, 12:36 PM	#2293
a_Username Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 3,890 View My Garage	Yeah it's a repost. Seems like there has been a lot of mustang owners joining the site after finally having a respectable GT.

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