2014 Camaro Z/28 pricing announced at $75,000

[Zfatuated]

Originally Posted by Houston94vert

Delusional.. or part of GM marketing. Can't tell.

You would have more credibility if you were to pick specific points and from my post and refute them with facts. How many track days did you do this year in your Mustang? Which road courses? Have you ever done a track day?

Tired of the BS, time to start calling people out.

[onewaydave]

$75k, Track ready that's about right.

[Number 3]

Here is a quick point of business that some people aren't getting.

You charge the price for your product that you can get based on the volumes you intend to sell.

GM did prototypes of what ended up being the C5 Z06. Had a chance to drive one of the cloth seat base cars. Someone realized that providing an opportunity for the customer to give you less money for a Corvette likely was a bad deal. So the cheaper but lighter weight body style got a nicer engine, titanium exhaust, etc. and became the most expensive car rather than the cheapest.

GM doesn't have to charge what we think it adds up to they only have to charge the amount the number of cars they intend to sell can be sold at. If there is a limited volume, then the price is whatever they think they can get and sell that number of cars.

It's really that simple.

Anyone complaining they should charge less is, LIKE ME, disappointed it's at a stratospheric price point that we likely can't pay or at least very much unwilling to pay.

Sure it would be great if they put all that stuff into that car that makes it far superior to any Camaro ever built and far superior to any Pony car ever built and go "gee, we love you guys so much, let's charge the same price as an SS".

That was never going to happen.

I'll make my case again. Take a 1LE (awesome car) and add the LS7 (my favorite engine anywhere. That car with that hand built engine is $60,000. Don't argue it, that is what a 1LE with the LS7 would cost based on the mark up for the LS7. Now you have a care that costs more than the ZL1, but can't and won't keep up with it around the track. Anyone think that the 2nd best Camaro around the track is worthy of being called a Z/28? GM didn't and a few people high up didn't either (or so I've heard) and making the car lighter, better handling, and better braking needed to be accomplished. So low volume parts just for the Z/28, Carbon Ceramic Brakes, Special wheels and very expensive tires. Our now $60,000 1LE (I told you not to argue it, it's true) is now pushing $70,000 (CC brakes alone would add $5,000 or so). Now throw in some development cost, amortize some tools and TA DAAAAAAA you are at $75,000. And keep in mind that $75,000 includes the Gas Guzzler Tax as well which I think is several thousand.

Yes, it seems high. But for the content it's fair. And add in that exclusivity (and GM is pricing for that too, bet on it) and it's more than fair. Keep in mind, even the Z06 is far more common than this Z/28 will be.

Anyway, this is the food for all of us enthusiasts.......................and I'm far from full.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

You would have more credibility if you were to pick specific points and from my post and refute them with facts. How many track days did you do this year in your Mustang? Which road courses? Have you ever done a track day?

Tired of the BS, time to start calling people out.

Don't mind the naysayers..... Some people just don't get "it".

[mr02Z/28]

I like it, but who is it really a good value for ??? Certainly not the "Average Joe" and if it is "track ready", does that mean it can or cannot be driven on the street ?? In my neck of the woods the we have an 8% sales tax that would shoot the Z well over $80,000

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

What are your concerns? Heads?

I am on my third. Dropped valve the first time and spun bearing the second. These things happen when you track hard, but at this point my confidence in the ls7 isn't stellar. GM replaced the first because it happened on the highway, but I didn't try the second time because it was on track and that's not their responsibility. Blown motors on z06s are more common than most realize. It is still a cheaper option than any alternatives, but I wouldn't bet the farm on an ls7 being bullet proof on the track. It's a great engine for a lot of purposes, but my personal experience with durability hasn't been the best and I know others with similar, though less repetitive, experiences.

[spencer489]

id rather have a new z06 or a modded 1le

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

I'm looking forward to this time next year when there are a hundred threads here on good times at the track instead of threads from people who would never buy a Z/28 in the first place.

this is the part the has me worried. I fear more Z/28 s will be bought to be collected than tracked. I fear that some Z may never see the track

[colews6]

great, 90k car in canada

[Ltespd]

$75,000!!!! What? GM can certainly charge whatever they want. But $75,000!!!? I like the new Z28 a lot. But for that price...no way. I see a lot of peole saying its a bargain. Really? Sorry I don't see it. You can buy a loaded 2014 Vette for less. Not knocking the car...just knocking the price.

[Unreal]

Originally Posted by Number 3

A Z06 with Z07 package is already nearly $100k

Also consider that the Z51 is nearly equal to the previous Z06 in performance. I'm expecting there will need to be a leap in Z06 performance as well compared to a Z51. And like the Z/28 I'm guessing premium powertrain and premium brakes as standard driving the cost way up there.

But in a week or so we'll see what engine it has and what brake it has and see where she goes.

I hope I'm wrong BTW.

Fully loaded out with everything yes, but you can also get them $20k off MSRP. Plus anyone really track focused is swapping brakes/etc out anyways. You can get a very nicely loaded 3lz carbon package 2013 z06 brand new for $65k, and spend $10k on track wheels/tires and some really badass brakes/roll bar/seats/etc to have a track ready car for same or less money that would be much quicker.

[14pilot]

Great news !!! Great Car !!!

I had posted $79,500 so I was over. Pleasant surprise on the price !!!

[Moreno1]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

You would have more credibility if you were to pick specific points and from my post and refute them with facts. How many track days did you do this year in your Mustang? Which road courses? Have you ever done a track day?

Tired of the BS, time to start calling people out.

Don't sweat the BS.

I see three viewpoints on the z/28:

1. "You mean they want 75k for a car that looks 85% similar to a 23k car??"

2. "75k seems fair, considering what your getting. Meh."

3. "You mean I can pay 75k and get a car that will embarrass $200k exotics owners at the track??"

[350 HRSS]

Excellent It will be added to the collection, and we can't wait to take it to VIR!