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bolteon593 · 03-13-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Just to report, I drove home in Number 3 today. I was smiling and happy. Friday, driving a 2010 Camaro........

Let me assure what I noticed was a well executed, well layed out comfortabale interior. What I noticed was a 3.6 L SIDI 304 HP V6 with a 6 speed manual trans. What I noticed was how wonderful the NVH was. What I noticed was how well the car rode and handled due the wonderful suspension. I did use the express up windows, the power recliner and the PDIM for my iphone........all on a car that stickers for about $26,000.

What I didn't notice was no light on the vanity mirror (I honestly had to double check that it has mattered so little), I did open the trunk and never gave the wiring harness a second thought. I did show a guy how to use the lever on the seat back to get into the back seat and he didn't say anything about how hard that would be. And you know what else I didn't do? Tap on the top of the IP with my finger nail to tell if it was skin over foam or hard plastic. Looking at it you can't tell, and on every other car, I CAN TELL.

Just sayin'.......................it's an awesome car and it's strengths out weigh the weaknesses.

And to support Fbodfather, I DID work at a Japanes OEM and they DO wory about piece cost and investment and ease of manufacture. DO NOT fall in to the hype that non-US manufacturers are that smarter.

And Fbodfather has really, and calmly I might add, tried to add some clarity here. LISTEN TO HIM.

unfortunetly for people like scott and the rest of the team at fault for such a a great car; people will always think that (one of the most important icon revivals,) the camaro was designed and built by people who have no idea what they're doing...

just because they aren't 100% satisfied with the final product.

like scott says, can't get 100% but by god 96% sure will do.

funny how i'm 96% happy with this car, and that's more then enough for me at a 30k level.

Angrybird 12 · 03-13-2009, 06:16 PM

I think this thread is just

now. it's time to move on..Please close this thread...

rex113 · 03-13-2009, 06:17 PM

I may have to cancel my order,I just noticed that the cup holders in the console are not deep enough for large bottles of water.:flag2:

djsnoflake · 03-13-2009, 06:23 PM

I was waiting for Fbod to chime in again. He took some shots that were pretty uncalled for IMO. He makes some great points, especially about something as rediculously unimportant as vanity mirrors.

I propose a new rule: Unless you actually are high up in management of an international manufacturing company that has to meet different regulations for the same product sold in different countries, all the while kepping the product appearing the same and appeasing fans of past generations of said product, you cannont comment on 'how easy' it would be to do something.

There's my .02 and I'm out for awhile to take a walk or something, cause this is getting rediculous.

*KILLER74Z28* · 03-13-2009, 06:28 PM

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Angrybird 12 · 03-13-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rex113

I may have to cancel my order,I just noticed that the cup holders in the console are not deep enough for large bottles of water.:flag2:

Oh yeah and the Frat-A-Stat is too small to read and the Dinglefob isn't in a good loctation to reach when you are doing reverse doughnuts...

But the ones on the Smart car are just right...Why couldn't GM do it right on the Camaro??

TJ91 · 03-13-2009, 06:33 PM

Scott ( Fbodfather) Number 3, Heatherr and everyone else at GM screwed up big on this CAR!!!!!.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...........................................I never got MY CTF Car

.......................................... .................................................. .............AND I DONT WANT TO WAIT TIL MAY< I WANT IT RIGHT NOW

No but all kidding aside, the Camaros interior felt absolutely amazing for me, i ahve sat in 2 2SSs and one LT, and honestly i dont think i have ever sat in a car where i got this much excitement, the Camaro really hugs you.
By the way some of the comments made here were just ridiculous, like Caddilac qualitiy,
Why doesnt my Camaro have Granite for the trim, why doesnt it have Italian leather, why doesnt it have a V10, and why is it 35K( Canadian Pricing) It should be free.
Come on guys, some people have extreme expectations here. We need to get a little more in tune, at the price of this car, try finding a car that is Brand new, which fits the same price and same list of options. Good Luck.
Were people planning to sleep on the IP or something?
Sorry for the rant, but i had to throw in my .02 in and i know everyone is entitled to their opinions so heres mine. It seems that this thread has gota little heated

*KILLER74Z28* · 03-13-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose

So, yes, I'm proud to say, "I am a Camaro/GM fanboy", who drinks the "koolaid" - but I am still able to be objective, and I'm still able to accept and respect others complaints.

Proud to say I am too…

CamaroEnergy4Life · 03-13-2009, 06:35 PM

NOBODY disrespects Fbodfather. That BS some of the stuff im seeing

TJ91 · 03-13-2009, 06:51 PM

Thats exactly what i was thinking

MrIcky · 03-13-2009, 06:55 PM

This whole post is funny. I can't believe how many response the OP got. Who cares if he doesn't buy one for those details. It's not like he came to your house and started peeing in a corner. Plus, it's probably hard to put on your mascara late at night without a lighted vanity mirror.

TJ91 · 03-13-2009, 06:56 PM

LMAO

Redwolf20 · 03-13-2009, 07:34 PM

Honestly, how much more discussion can there be on this topic?

We went from vanity lights and passenger seat to poor interior to GM economics and R&D back to vanity lights. The circle is complete.

It's a great car for a great price. Play ball!

Douge · 03-13-2009, 08:04 PM

Well, I totally respect the OP's opinions. Its his 38K and I agree with him, it is a lot of money. If he thinks the interior is cheap plastic and he doesn't like it, I would be dissapointed too. I didn't read the whole thread but I am going to assume there was an operator error on the rear seat entry, if its a two step process, that is stupid and a huge inconvenience.

I am sure he will not be the only one who shows up to purchase the car and has second thoughts once its seen and driven. It happens. Its a very competitive market and there are a lot, and I mean a lot of very good cars that can be had for 38K many of which are capable of putting a "blank eating grin on your face.

No need for anyone to get butthurt. We all have different expectations and we cannot nor should we try to impose our expectations on anyone else.

03-13-2009, 06:16 PM	#226
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03-13-2009, 06:28 PM	#229
KILLER74Z28 MOD SQUAD Drives: 2G1FT1EW9A9100666 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 5,768 View My Garage	__________________ Who cares about the Blue Oval crowd and their little Ponys? We're getting our Camaro back-and it'll be Supercharged!-MDAII Team LS3

03-13-2009, 06:33 PM	#231
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,035	Scott ( Fbodfather) Number 3, Heatherr and everyone else at GM screwed up big on this CAR!!!!!.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...........................................I never got MY CTF Car.......................................... .................................................. .............AND I DONT WANT TO WAIT TIL MAY< I WANT IT RIGHT NOW No but all kidding aside, the Camaros interior felt absolutely amazing for me, i ahve sat in 2 2SSs and one LT, and honestly i dont think i have ever sat in a car where i got this much excitement, the Camaro really hugs you. By the way some of the comments made here were just ridiculous, like Caddilac qualitiy, Why doesnt my Camaro have Granite for the trim, why doesnt it have Italian leather, why doesnt it have a V10, and why is it 35K( Canadian Pricing) It should be free. Come on guys, some people have extreme expectations here. We need to get a little more in tune, at the price of this car, try finding a car that is Brand new, which fits the same price and same list of options. Good Luck. Were people planning to sleep on the IP or something? Sorry for the rant, but i had to throw in my .02 in and i know everyone is entitled to their opinions so heres mine. It seems that this thread has gota little heated

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03-13-2009, 06:17 PM	#227
rex113 Drives: 2010 2ss silver/cyb Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: nj Posts: 200	I may have to cancel my order,I just noticed that the cup holders in the console are not deep enough for large bottles of water.:flag2:

03-13-2009, 06:23 PM	#228
djsnoflake Faith Keeper Drives: 2012 Silverado LTZ, 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 2,764 View My Garage	I was waiting for Fbod to chime in again. He took some shots that were pretty uncalled for IMO. He makes some great points, especially about something as rediculously unimportant as vanity mirrors. I propose a new rule: Unless you actually are high up in management of an international manufacturing company that has to meet different regulations for the same product sold in different countries, all the while kepping the product appearing the same and appeasing fans of past generations of said product, you cannont comment on 'how easy' it would be to do something. There's my .02 and I'm out for awhile to take a walk or something, cause this is getting rediculous.

03-13-2009, 06:35 PM	#233
CamaroEnergy4Life CamaroEnergy4Life Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NY Posts: 358	NOBODY disrespects Fbodfather. That BS some of the stuff im seeing

03-13-2009, 06:51 PM	#234
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,035	Thats exactly what i was thinking

03-13-2009, 06:55 PM	#235
MrIcky Drives: Dodge Ram Megacab & Cobalt SS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boise Posts: 1,536	This whole post is funny. I can't believe how many response the OP got. Who cares if he doesn't buy one for those details. It's not like he came to your house and started peeing in a corner. Plus, it's probably hard to put on your mascara late at night without a lighted vanity mirror.

03-13-2009, 06:56 PM	#236
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,035	LMAO

03-13-2009, 07:34 PM	#237
Redwolf20 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lemoore, CA Posts: 364	Honestly, how much more discussion can there be on this topic? We went from vanity lights and passenger seat to poor interior to GM economics and R&D back to vanity lights. The circle is complete. It's a great car for a great price. Play ball!

03-13-2009, 08:04 PM	#238
Douge Eurotrash Connossieur Drives: 1985 Mercedes 500SEL Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 188	Well, I totally respect the OP's opinions. Its his 38K and I agree with him, it is a lot of money. If he thinks the interior is cheap plastic and he doesn't like it, I would be dissapointed too. I didn't read the whole thread but I am going to assume there was an operator error on the rear seat entry, if its a two step process, that is stupid and a huge inconvenience. I am sure he will not be the only one who shows up to purchase the car and has second thoughts once its seen and driven. It happens. Its a very competitive market and there are a lot, and I mean a lot of very good cars that can be had for 38K many of which are capable of putting a "blank eating grin on your face. No need for anyone to get butthurt. We all have different expectations and we cannot nor should we try to impose our expectations on anyone else.