Motor Trend compares the ZL1 to the Boss 302 Laguna Seca

[2ndCamaro79]

THERE IS NO ARGUMENT ABOUT THE ZL1 VS THE BOSS OR SHELBY IT BEAT THEM GET OVER IT.

NOW THE 2013 WAITED TO SEE WHAT OUR HAND WAS THEN PLAYED THEIRS
IF THE ZL1 HAD 800HP THE NEXT MUSTANG WOULD HAVE HAD 900HP

END OF STORY: PLEASE ENJOY YOUR BEAT DOWN FOR NOW

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Those 392 1/4 mile numbers are tale tales

How so?? They have several videos with them doing it. They one in the 11's with just a cat back and stall. Nothing else. How do i kno this?? CAUSE YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ELSE TO THEM. NO TUNING AVAILABLE.

[2ndCamaro79]

Motor Trend
Quarter mile 13.0 sec @ 111.3 mph

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

THERE IS NO ARGUMENT ABOUT THE ZL1 VS THE BOSS OR SHELBY IT BEAT THEM GET OVER IT.

NOW THE 2013 WAITED TO SEE WHAT OUR HAND WAS THEN PLAYED THEIRS
IF THE ZL1 HAD 800HP THE NEXT MUSTANG WOULD HAVE HAD 900HP

END OF STORY: PLEASE ENJOY YOUR BEAT DOWN FOR NOW

Wow nice attempt at trolling but I hope youre not representing the entire c5 community. The zl1 was a response to the gt500 (and a good response at that) but that just means gm was playing off of fords hand.and how cam you say the 2013 was also played off gm's hand? the cars are pretty much coming out at the same time, which means the gt500 was in development way before gm announced any figures for the zl1, duh.

[Houston94vert]

Originally Posted by jroc7

Based on the laptimes, if these two cars went to that track and had a 350-mile race, the Camaro would beat the "best mustang ever made" by 3 laps! Think about that. And as for a 650-hp GT500, just look at the lap times of the ZR1 vs ZL1 at the ring from last year. The ZR1, with over 600 hp and much less weight and better aero wasn't that much faster when you take the length of one lap into account. The 2013 GT500 may be impressive in a straight line, but no one would take it in a fight with the ZR1, so with the same old Mustang lack of technology and refinement, all you're going to get is a lot of wasted energy from the motor. Power means nothing if you can't put it down. Besides, if Ford gets to brag about the Shelby-enhanced Mustang, I'm sure SLP, Lingenfelter, or any of those guys would be more than happy to take on anything Carol Shelby or Jack Roush can crap out. If its the best car that rolls out of Dearborn vs the best car that rolls out of Oshawa, I'll take GM everytime.

What's funny is you forget about....
Heat soak... how long do you think that will take to set in and pull timing out of ZL1.

Or 350 mile race... let's see.. how many times would the ZL1 need fuel compared to the boss mustang? Or here is the best part... read this...

What sanctioned body event do you speak of, that the ZL1 could race a 350 mile event?

GM (and Ford) marketed the ZL1 and (Boss/LS) as a track car. Ford did so first however, a car that is track ready is far different that is competition ready. You will find that there are a lot of GT, Boss and Boss LS owners that are running competitively in SCCA and NASA. All thier cars (11' GT500 and the Bilstein equipped '13 GT500 included) are legal to run competitively. SCCA now allows supercharged cars to run legally however, the SCCA, NASA, FIA (Europe) and in fact every single road racing organization in the world WILL NOT permit the use of MRC as the ZL1 has.
Could the ZL1 enter Grand Am this year in GS class? No... Could the ZL1 challenge Paul Brown in SCCA GTS? No... Will NASA accept them? No again... The SS has trouble there alone.

The reason an obscure track was selected was because NO existing times for any of the Mustang's are recorded on those tracks. The last GT500 vs. Boss LS at Willow seen the GT500 win by .5 seconds, add in your 650/670hp, 600+tq, Bilstein shocks, revised gearing, New Goodyears and better cooling...

[BigHemiSrt]

Here it is putting a hurting on a ZO6...Sorry for the thread jack. Im done.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Motor Trend
Quarter mile 13.0 sec @ 111.3 mph

Exactly. One of the mags got a 12.6@116 with the ZL1. Thats only .4 tenths quicker with 110 more hp and LESS weight.

[2ndCamaro79]

Inside Line Test of 393
Challenger 392's prodigious power made its presence felt in the quarter-mile, too, clocking a 12.6-second run at 112.1 mph.

Thats two auto mags that test cars for a living.

[Houston94vert]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Exactly. One of the mags got a 12.6@116 with the ZL1. Thats only .4 tenths quicker with 110 more hp and LESS weight.

Seriously?? Dodge is way behind in this battle. Both in price and peformance.

What can you get from Dodge for under 35k that runs 12's? NOTHING!!

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Inside Line Test of 393
Challenger 392's prodigious power made its presence felt in the quarter-mile, too, clocking a 12.6-second run at 112.1 mph.

Thats two auto mags that test cars for a living.

HAHAHAHA!!! Thanks for proving my point!!

ZL1 Test Results
0-60 mph: 4.3 sec n 0-100 mph: 9.5 sec n 1/4-mile: 12.6 sec @ 116 mph

They ran the SAME time!!! lmao

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by Houston94vert

Seriously?? Dodge is way behind in this battle. Both in price and peformance.

What can you get from Dodge for under 35k that runs 12's? NOTHING!!

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by Houston94vert

Seriously?? Dodge is way behind in this battle. Both in price and peformance.

What can you get from Dodge for under 35k that runs 12's? NOTHING!!

I agree. Dodge is behind. But when it comes to 1/4 its just not that far behind. Ill be the first to admit dodge is effed up in the head!

[2ndCamaro79]

This times one million
The 2013 Shelby was just a response to the ZL1 and its nothing but numbers sorry truth hurts
Posted 18 November 2011 - 08:50 AM
From www.realperformancemustangs.com via Jalopnik.com
Chevy Challenges Ford To Muscle Car Fight, Ford Takes Bat, Goes Home<br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, Times, 'Liberation Serif', serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; ">After Ford brought out its potentially ZL1-killing 650-horsepower 2013 Shelby GT500, Joel Ewanick, global vice president of GM marketing, decided to drop the gauntlet down at the feet of Ford. "We should take a Camaro, Ford brings a Mustang, we each pick our drivers, and see who has the best time on the Nürburgring," Ewanick said to Scott Burgess of the Detroit News. Jim Farley, who heads Ford's global marketing, wasn't taking the bait despite professed claims to a desire to "take a bat" to Chevrolet. "I wish we could," he said, after hearing about Ewanick's challenge. "Who wouldn't want to do that?" Huh.


Come on Farley! Don't let GM push you around!!!

[GT5Junkie]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

THERE IS NO ARGUMENT ABOUT THE ZL1 VS THE BOSS OR SHELBY IT BEAT THEM GET OVER IT.

NOW THE 2013 WAITED TO SEE WHAT OUR HAND WAS THEN PLAYED THEIRS
IF THE ZL1 HAD 800HP THE NEXT MUSTANG WOULD HAVE HAD 900HP

END OF STORY: PLEASE ENJOY YOUR BEAT DOWN FOR NOW

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