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Old 05-04-2012, 10:39 PM   #225
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I clicked off an 11.70 @ 115mph in my TBSS brick, so that mph doesn't seem far off..

That being said, just because they used the DR's, doesn't mean they had to post what they ran with them. Who's not to say they ran the 11.9X in completely stock trim, THEN put the Mickey T's on and MAYBE even some tuning or whatever, just to see what she would do and didn't want to release that information..

Car and Driver, Motor Trend and others have run 12.0's with this car bone stock. A tenth or 2 faster is definitely expected since just about every vehicle those magazine racers run, end up actually producing faster times with the right temps, track prep, and driver...
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:01 PM   #226
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I think a video of someone boasting about 1/4 mile times without a drag strip around kind of funny.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:10 PM   #227
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LOL, So no actual stock ZL1 owners run an 11 yet? Ok, just checking.


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Old 05-04-2012, 11:17 PM   #228
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LOL, So no actual stock ZL1 owners run an 11 yet? Ok, just checking.


About 20% of the ZL1's produced are members here.
Very few of those will have run them at a strip and even less will have strip experience.
Give it time over the summer for those numbers to appear.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:20 PM   #229
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Gm says stock tire car cut a 1.6 , still a hard to believe.
Best I could do with a AWD car traping 116 mph is 1.6 60's but ran 11.7
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:22 PM   #230
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Milan has a great track manager, great at prepping a track for radials.

I can believe 11.9 on stock tires.

As for using 10 gallons of gas, that's a bit hard to believe, how many runs would that be, like 40?

I have a buddy who runs in the mid 7's and he doesn't even use a whole gallon on a pass.

I've been expecting the ZL1 autos to run 11.9 no problem, and the stick cars to run 11.7's on stock tires. The MPH I've been seeing is not blowing me away for the stock cars but the cars are cool overall. Let's remember they are like 300 lbs heavier than the Mustang.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:26 PM   #231
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i dont see why youre getting so worked up over all this. 11.9's at only 116mph is doable, but the way this post was originally presented was all over the place. The video was talking about drag radials and the text wasnt, nothing wrong with people wanting things set straight. A ZL1 WILL eventually touch 11's stock in private hands im sure of that.
Nothing was 'all over the place'. It stated that they ran a 11.9 with a stock car.
They also mentioned they were testing the DR's.
PTM Mode 5 is DESIGNED for DR's on a sticky track, so that is probably what they had the DR's for, to test PTM mode 5.

It was only people speculating that since the time was so good, and DR's were mentioned, they MUST have gotten those good times with DR's.

A very coomon way of different people interpreting things their own way.

In the end, guess what, they confirmed what they said in the beginning. The times mentioned were indeed done using stock tires and not the DR's.

It was some peoples interpretations that were all over the place, not the facts.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:30 PM   #232
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About 20% of the ZL1's produced are members here.
Very few of those will have run them at a strip and even less will have strip experience.
Give it time over the summer for those numbers to appear.
I'm not expecting every ZL1 to run 11's, it would just be nice to read about ONE actual owner getting 11s.
Oh and faster times will not come during the summer heat.
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Gm says stock tire car cut a 1.6 , still a hard to believe.
Best I could do with a AWD car traping 116 mph is 1.6 60's but ran 11.7

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Milan has a great track manager, great at prepping a track for radials.

I can believe 11.9 on stock tires.

As for using 10 gallons of gas, that's a bit hard to believe, how many runs would that be, like 40?

I have a buddy who runs in the mid 7's and he doesn't even use a whole gallon on a pass.

I've been expecting the ZL1 autos to run 11.9 no problem, and the stick cars to run 11.7's on stock tires. The MPH I've been seeing is not blowing me away for the stock cars but the cars are cool overall. Let's remember they are like 300 lbs heavier than the Mustang.
I can believe 11.9 on stock tires with good DA, but the 1.6 60' is a little hard to swallow.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:31 PM   #233
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The funny thing is that BOSS mustangs, not built for the track, needed Drag Radials to accomplish what the ZL1 can do on street tires. Even the 60ft times are equal. Thats the sexiness of the magnetic suspension. Great grip!



Even Mickey Thompson DRs are obsolete when compare to ZL1 tires according to GM press release:

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So, that means you only shave 0.1s using MTs?? Thats economy. You dont have to buy DRs. ZL1 stock tires provides all the grip you're going to need at the strip where this car can shine too. According to the same press release:

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Autoblog: The Camaro team re-engineered 30 percent of a Camaro 2SS to make the ZL1, including special modifications just for the drag strip.
There you have it folks. Not only the ZL1 is beast on the road course, but it has special modifications just to run at the drag strip. Best of both Worlds.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:35 PM   #234
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The funny thing is that BOSS mustangs, not built for the track, need Drag Radials to accomplish what the ZL1 can do on street tires. Even the 60ft times are equal. Thats the sexiness of the magnetic suspension. Great grip!



Even Mickey Thompson DRs are obsolete when compare to ZL1 tires according to GM press release:



So, that means you only shave 0.1s using MTs?? Thats economy. You dont have to buy DRs. ZL1 stock tires provides all the grip you're going to need at the strip where this car can shine too. According to the same press release:



There you have it folks. Not only the ZL1 is beast on the road course, but it has special modifications just to run at the drag strip. Best of both Worlds.
A tenth of a second in an 11 second race is a huge advantage.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:40 PM   #235
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A tenth of a second in an 11 second race is a huge advantage.
But for the price of DRs, you can buy a CAI, a Tune + other mods and you'll be running faster than 0.1s. Thats economy, thats the advantage of ZL1's GYF1 sticky tires.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:42 PM   #236
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But for the price of DRs, you can buy a CAI, a Tune + other mods and you'll be running faster than 0.1s. Thats economy, thats the advantage of ZL1's GYF1 sticky tires.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:44 PM   #237
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Nothing was 'all over the place'. It stated that they ran a 11.9 with a stock car.
They also mentioned they were testing the DR's.
PTM Mode 5 is DESIGNED for DR's on a sticky track, so that is probably what they had the DR's for, to test PTM mode 5.

It was only people speculating that since the time was so good, and DR's were mentioned, they MUST have gotten those good times with DR's.

A very coomon way of different people interpreting things their own way.

In the end, guess what, they confirmed what they said in the beginning. The times mentioned were indeed done using stock tires and not the DR's.

It was some peoples interpretations that were all over the place, not the facts.
I don't think anyone speculated they must have run drag radials because the times were so good. Everyone was expecting more in the 1/4 before the car was released as far as I can tell. The problem is they talked about running drag radials, then they put up ET/trap/60' that look like drag radial runs and a conflicting source said they ran drag radials (lsxtv). That's where the confusion came from. Like I said before, these are times expected of the car I don't think anyone has denied that. Cutting 1.6X 60' and an 11.9@116 means a fantastic launch on stock tires. Track prep and some great driving it seems.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:47 PM   #238
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If you guys think that a set of the goodyears that comes on the ZL1 outperforms a set of drag radials and that it will pull that kind of 60 ft, I got some ocean front property in kansas to sell ya. I like the ZL1 but I also can be realistic too. Another thing the Z has going against it is its a fat lady. Alot of the guys were calling the Challenger a fat pig well now the shoes on the other foot.
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