A post I was hoping to not have to make (GM blocks L3 engine warranty repair)

[PAUL SS]

Signed. Good luck.

[Stormcloak]

Originally Posted by mlee

Actually the answer to your 1st three questions is NO. That's why we are here.

[DokWatson]

Originally Posted by 805camaro

Okay okay let me re word that, that was in the eyes of GM. Not in a literal sense

GM puts this system on their own cars. So.... backpedal more.

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[mlee]

Originally Posted by DokWatson

GM puts this system on their own cars. So.... backpedal more.

Be nice...

Originally Posted by 805camaro

Okay okay let me re word that, that was in the eyes of GM. Not in a literal sense

GM knows what a catch can does and does not do.

Most know, I would be the very very 1st person on here defending GM.

It basically boils down to the car was modified and we all know you have to pay to play. Except there are literally 1000's with these same mods and this just doesn't happen.

[Chevy Fanatic]

Originally Posted by 805camaro

Does oil run through the catch can before complete oil circulation? Yes. Could there be a defect in the catch can that prevents oil from passing through? Yes. Would that cause low oil pressure and possible destroy the engine? Yes. If the roles were reversed and you were the one shelling out the money to a customer to replace an engine that they placed aftermarket parts on "possibly" causing engine failure, would you be so quick to replace their engine? No. What I don't understand is why you wouldn't remove all modified parts on the engine before you took it into the dealer expecting them to replace your engine. I'm sorry but keep dreaming everyone. It's like this with everything with a warranty. You can't expect ANY company to stand behind YOUR work. If you took the car in completely stock you would already be back on the road.

Do you need to pick up a book and learn basic automotive principals, yes. Do you need to wake up from your dream and realize a catch can is not tied to this oil pump failure, yes. Is the OP asking GM to warranty HIS work, hell no. The Op is asking GM to warranty THIER work as a result of a defective oil pump, which is a know LS3 issue.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Chevy Fanatic

Do you need to pick up a book and learn basic automotive principals, yes. Do you need to wake up from your dream and realize a catch can is not tied to this oil pump failure, yes. Is the OP asking GM to warranty HIS work, hell no. The Op is asking GM to warranty THIER work as a result of a defective oil pump, which is a know LS3 issue.

Be nice guys... he's already re-worded his statement.

[OrangeVert]

Originally Posted by jasco

The catch can manufacture should have attorneys to help solve the issue of GM is insisting that is why they will not warranty it.

Exactly - this!! Catch can guys have an interest to see this resolved in your favor. GM has exactly the opposite. Do as you will of course but that would be my next step. Sit back and watch the fur fly. :-)

[Mr. Stacy]

Amazing reaponse guys and gals. Thanks for putting in the effort.

Reading the comments on the petition site is fantastic and very heartfelt stories.

Only a very foolish company would ignore this effort to right a wrong. And we ALL know that's what this is, a foolish mistake on the part of the GM.

I am hoping GM will step up and help this guy out, just like we helped out GM when they were in serious times of trouble.

Please keep signing and thanks for all the comments as well!

In the meantime, we have a loyal Camaro owner whose main means of transportation is sitting in his driveway with a half disassembled engine and a box of parts in the trunk. If GM doesn't act fast on this, I am hoping I can count on all of you to take this to the next level... although I think I already know the answer to that. You guys have been amazing.

JMHO as always.

https://www.change.org/p/alicia-bole...eir-warranty/c

[Nor Cal ZL1]

Will gladly donate should the need arise. Keep us advised, and great job putting this together.

[havelegs]

Originally Posted by DokWatson

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/ditch-...ate-1634156554

This will explain it better than I can. The PCV system isn't really all that important. It makes the EPA and whoever else happy, about it. You get a nice oily intake for it. And as far as installing it wrong, I'm pretty sure it would act like a clogged PCV system and you'd know it. But you wouldn't lose oil pressure.

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The oily intake helps the air flow thru it quicker.

[HeaterMan]

the catch can is installed in part of the emissions system, that may be why gm is playing hardball. doesn't make it right though and most certainly is NOT the reason for the failure

[Gino_7]

Signed.

[MuhThugga]

Originally Posted by DokWatson

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/ditch-...ate-1634156554

This will explain it better than I can. The PCV system isn't really all that important. It makes the EPA and whoever else happy, about it. You get a nice oily intake for it. And as far as installing it wrong, I'm pretty sure it would act like a clogged PCV system and you'd know it. But you wouldn't lose oil pressure.

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A PCV system is absolutely important. The crankcase is going to build pressure, and if an outlet isn't provided, it will find one to vent that pressure.

Originally Posted by 805camaro

Does oil run through the catch can before complete oil circulation? Yes. Could there be a defect in the catch can that prevents oil from passing through? Yes. Would that cause low oil pressure and possible destroy the engine? Yes. If the roles were reversed and you were the one shelling out the money to a customer to replace an engine that they placed aftermarket parts on "possibly" causing engine failure, would you be so quick to replace their engine? No. What I don't understand is why you wouldn't remove all modified parts on the engine before you took it into the dealer expecting them to replace your engine. I'm sorry but keep dreaming everyone. It's like this with everything with a warranty. You can't expect ANY company to stand behind YOUR work. If you took the car in completely stock you would already be back on the road.

First off, no, no, and no. You are confusing a catch can with an oil filter.

Secondly, hindsight is always 20/20, but installing a catch can on an LS engine isn't anything new. I'm willing to bet GM has numerous pictures of failed LS engines with catch cans installed over the past 18 years, and I'm also willing to bet those were all given the go-ahead for replacement, and if they weren't, I'm willing to bet that none of them had the catch can cited as the reason for denial.

[Jayjellyfish212]

Time to add quick connects to our catch cans. F..EM..won't be on my car if I go to the dealer for anything. Easy on easy of danial son