Camaro Sales -- 6,000 Sold orders 84% SS V8!

[TomServo]

Originally Posted by camaropete

Come on. Do you think this is the first time GM ever built a car? You don't think they put some penalties against their suppliers for failures to deliver major items? With all the hype and publicity, I have to believe that GM is smarter than that.

Can some one explain why after all these years of production Corvette Production Weekly Constraints still happen??

This is usually the message that get's sent to dealers:

Constraints are distributed based on Available Days’ Supply (ADS), Controlled Method or Percent of Allocation (POA). Dealers can use the weekly constraint wire to see the basic availability of an option. The percentages on the weekly constraint wire are estimated based on the national retail number of the constrained option divided by the amount of retail orders being allocated for the week.

I know my 06 was delayed for availability of the High Polished Wheels. So I changed my order and out popped my brand new C6.

Guess Chevy will manage the Camaro better than the Vette.

[Txturbo]

My Camaros ARE my 401K

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by Txturbo

My Camaros ARE my 401K

Actually that's true to an extent with me as well.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Gomerr

fbodfather shouldnt even read this post anymore, people obviously dont listen or learn when he posts solid information...

le sigh

I feel like that sometimes too

Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd

Well since the original thread was closed... Some ideas for GM:

I’m sure GM is thinking of these things already but I’ll through out a few ideas of things you could do to continue strong sales going down the road.

- Limited editions, a given really so I won’t go into it
- Special options packages, things like a “Bumblebee package”, Performance package with GMPP parts, handling package with suspension modifications, Recaro seats and so forth.
- Look into offering an individual program like VW, Audi and others. These are where additional trims are offered but they must be special ordered and of course cost more.

Of course we can go after market and do whatever we want but some, perhaps many like to get all of it right from the factory all in one nice monthly payment with our warranty intact.

I think these are great suggestions because I think it would go a ways to show potential buyers that they can individualize their cars more. I don't think many people really care to take the time to put together options and accessories because they don't want to, but if they had some packages already, they'd be more interested. I know if I could lump more into my monthly payment, I wouldn't mind; especially if it's at a low rate.

Originally Posted by TomServo

Can some one explain why after all these years of production Corvette Production Weekly Constraints still happen??

This is usually the message that get's sent to dealers:

Constraints are distributed based on Available Days’ Supply (ADS), Controlled Method or Percent of Allocation (POA). Dealers can use the weekly constraint wire to see the basic availability of an option. The percentages on the weekly constraint wire are estimated based on the national retail number of the constrained option divided by the amount of retail orders being allocated for the week.

I know my 06 was delayed for availability of the High Polished Wheels. So I changed my order and out popped my brand new C6.

Guess Chevy will manage the Camaro better than the Vette.

I'm sure someone can jump in that knows more, but it seems to me, through my experience at a bodyshop, that these sorts of things can come about because of suppliers, among other things. To address your specific question, I'll say that many times, I would have to wait on repairing a vehicle for several weeks because the dealership could not obtain the parts I needed because they were either on backorder, being superceeded, or just coming from the supplier. Sometimes, the parts are in just such a high demand that there just aren't enough on the shelves, or they actually have to pull them off the assembly line in order to get them to me.

Someone else can probably give a better answer than me

[Red Hot]

Originally Posted by TomServo

Can some one explain why after all these years of production Corvette Production Weekly Constraints still happen??

This is usually the message that get's sent to dealers:

Constraints are distributed based on Available Days’ Supply (ADS), Controlled Method or Percent of Allocation (POA). Dealers can use the weekly constraint wire to see the basic availability of an option. The percentages on the weekly constraint wire are estimated based on the national retail number of the constrained option divided by the amount of retail orders being allocated for the week.

I know my 06 was delayed for availability of the High Polished Wheels. So I changed my order and out popped my brand new C6.

Guess Chevy will manage the Camaro better than the Vette.

I sure hope you're right. I ordered a 2SS, but was dissapointed that the painted aluminimum wheels were in the RS package, but didn't change anything (even though I'd rather have the polished wheels) because I didn't want that to slow delivery. I could never figure out why GM takes so long to get a car out to production after they decide to. The salesman said they wanted to make sure everything right, but with this pre-order and a lot of the things I'm reading, it seems like they still don't have everything figured out. A lot of things happening these days are uncharted territory, so no one really knows the exact outcomes. I guess we just have to hope for the best.
I can't wait to drive my car into my driveway next spring. Only thing I wish I had on it were the polished wheels and automatic climate control. Well, maybe a nav. system too. I'm sure by spring, there'll be a few more things I'll read that will be added to that.
Can anyone tell me why the Automatic has the 400hp engine and the manual has the 422hp?
I think most of the motorheads waiting for this car to finally come out can't fathom anything less than a V8. It's a Camaro!
But I saw Jay Leno's video with the yellow V6 and he thought that one was cool, so it's obviously a good option for someone with a limited budget! Nice to make the car available to more people. I just wish they had special colors for the V8, instead of colors available for the V6 and not the V8. Special colors would distinguish it more easily.
My salesman said that it should be here about March or April, but will probably know more around February, so I guess I have to be patient until then. It's going to be a LONG winter!

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Red Hot

Can anyone tell me why the Automatic has the 400hp engine and the manual has the 422hp?

I believe it is actually rated at 395 hp. You can do a search on the forum and you will find much info on this, but in a nutshell the automatic has the L99 (LS3 but with AFM), and the manual has the LS3 without AFM. AFM to help increase fuel economy, but you loose roughly 25 horse in the process.

Automatics suck fuel more than manuals, so to compensate the automatic Camaro gets extra technology in the engine but looses hp.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by fastball

I believe it is actually rated at 395 hp. You can do a search on the forum and you will find much info on this, but in a nutshell the automatic has the L99 (LS3 but with AFM), and the manual has the LS3 without AFM. AFM to help increase fuel economy, but you loose roughly 25 horse in the process.

Automatics suck fuel more than manuals, so to compensate the automatic Camaro gets extra technology in the engine but looses hp.

That and AFM doesn't play well with a manual transmission.

[Rodrunner]

Originally Posted by franknbeans

Dude, how old are you 19,20?

A 401k way more important than a Camaro. . Your logic here is. . . well who cares if you lost 122k on your retirement plan. . . go a head and spend 30+k on a Camaro and worry about your retirement money when it runs out. . .

Sorry to hear about your retirement hardships. . . Good luck

Sorry everyone, I know this is way off this thread's subject...

...but for franknbeans enlightnment, any market loss right now is only on paper. No one has actually lost a single red cent in a 401k unless they are at least 59&1/2 and cashed out, or moved what is left after a 40% drop to a lower yeilding fund such as bonds. Wirewilly is signed on as a junior member, so I assumed he was young, and, like fbodfather implied, he had time to wait and let the economy recover. Now's a great time to be buying low! I'm about twelve years to retirement and feeling lucky, because the stocks I'm buying today are going to help my portfolio significantly no too far down the road when our economy recovers, and it will, it always has. End of lesson.

2SS/RS Black/Black w-Cyber Gray stripes/Auto ordered-10/18/08

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by TomServo

Can some one explain why after all these years of production Corvette Production Weekly Constraints still happen??

This is usually the message that get's sent to dealers:

Constraints are distributed based on Available Days’ Supply (ADS), Controlled Method or Percent of Allocation (POA). Dealers can use the weekly constraint wire to see the basic availability of an option. The percentages on the weekly constraint wire are estimated based on the national retail number of the constrained option divided by the amount of retail orders being allocated for the week.

I know my 06 was delayed for availability of the High Polished Wheels. So I changed my order and out popped my brand new C6.

Guess Chevy will manage the Camaro better than the Vette.

Very simple -- levelized production. Every manufacturer has to forecast and set a limit on what will be built. Let's assume that we build polished wheels at, say, 300 a week.......the manufacturer of the wheel has to tool to SOMETHING -- so let's say he's tooled to 300 a week -- if demand goes to 320, he can put on overtime...........but let's say it spikes to 450 a week.......what does he do? Does he invest in tooling to get to 450? What happens when demand falls back to 140?

[camaro5]

Good info, it makes sense now.

[sdimess84]

I just got home from ordering my 2ss model. Cant wait!

[CWI]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Very simple -- levelized production. What happens when demand falls back to 140?

Scott, I'm surprised you ended that post with a question. Now we get to see how people try to answer that question.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Scott, I'm surprised you ended that post with a question. Now we get to see how people try to answer that question.

I'm awaiting responses as well.

[Evilkosh99]

The phenomenon that Scott is referring to (and correct me if I'm wrong) is called the bullwhip effect in supply chains. You can check wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullwhip_effect to read a bit about it. I know - some people really dislike wikipedia, but it gives you the basic idea. A common example of this effect is the beer distribution game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_distribution_game) which is not really as interesting as it sounds

Basically, as you move from level to level in a supply chain, demand forecasting can get increasingly innacurrate and although at the point of sales (the customer) demand might only be for a few of a certain item, by the time it is interpreted and aggregated by the dealers/distributors/suppliers/etc., then at the point of manufacture, the demand might appear to be very large. This can result in huge inventory, if as Scott says, they were to tool for 450 when demand at point of sales has fallen to 140. The reason for the growth in just-in-time manufacturing and integrated supply chains is to more effectively pass the information up the chain to help minimize the bullwhip effect and therefore inventory. It is, however, still a major issue facing manufacturing-based supply chains - and finding the perfect balance is still quite difficult.

Sorry if I bored anyone with supply chain