Open Letter from Al Oppenhieser to the Camaro Nation and Ford. - Page 19 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

fbodfather · 11-17-2011, 01:58 PM

YES - a repost - but I think it's appropriate in the case that people didn't see it on another thread..........

OK -

everyone --

Listen up.

I am astounded as to how the mood and disposition on this site has deteriorated to a child-like "My Dad can beat up your Dad!" hysteria over the past week......

It's appalling!

A couple of things:

ONE - competition is good! As much as I'd love GM to ALWAYS be the fastest/safest/highest fuel economy/highest quality in EVERY SEGMENT - well, as our friend Peter DeLorenzo would say: " www.aintgonnahappen.com " It's not like they've hired inept people! They are a force to be reckoned with - and I can assure you that no one at Ford or GM takes the other company for granted..........

There will always be friendly competition atwixt GM and Ford - that's a good thing!

TWO - There is no other track that I know of that offers what the Nurburgring offers - and that's why GM uses it (along with other tracks) for performance vehicle development.

THREE - I love it that Mr. Ewanick threw the challenge out there - and I think that Ford may reconsider. I don't know that for a fact, but I just get a feeling that they may - meanwhile - it certainly has created ANOTHER uproar......

FOUR - This is a Camaro site. The name "Camaro" means "friend, pal, or comrade" - keep that in mind. As I said in another post - there are many who have worked to keep the Camaro Community together - this site and its moderators have worked tirelessly to provide a place for us to come and discuss all things Camaro....... so - if you're a troll - please - take it elsewhere, K?

Let's celebrate that WE - the enthusiasts of the world - have BREATHTAKING performance available to us! If I had told you that Camaro and Mustang would offer you this kind of horsepower even three years ago, you would not have believed me............

The reason why we have this available?

COMPETITION!

Do I love to tease Ford by saying things like

"...well, that's just dumber than a truckload of Mustangs" ????

- OF COURSE! It's done in fun.....because I know that they have very talented people - and frankly, they're my neighbors and they're an American company - God Bless 'em!

So - how 'bout everyone take a 5 minute break -- calm down - take a deep breath - and realize how lucky we are to be able to witness the new golden age in performance automobiles!!!!

Just sayin' --

vroomapunk · 11-17-2011, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Do I love to tease Ford by saying things like

"...well, that's just dumber than a truckload of Mustangs" ????

I actually laughed out loud at work cause of that.

toilets · 11-17-2011, 02:03 PM

agreed Fbodfather!!!

adamgl · 11-17-2011, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toesuf94

Let's give 'em both to the Stig!

Some say he wears leather chaps to bed, and likes coloring outside the lines!

Ya

Some say he's the main cause of global warming and that he once punched a horse to the ground... all we know is, he's called the Stig.

Z4me · 11-17-2011, 02:05 PM

I actually like the photo's of fbodfathers camaro "THOR" being pictured
on the blacktop, with car parts all around him. From the l;ooks of things
thor was on a steady diet of Mustang GT's on that day!

lil_red_v6 · 11-17-2011, 02:08 PM

he was once known as chuck norris till he got behind th ewheel of the most sufficticated and advanced camaro yet and now he is known as the stig.

*TAG UR IT* · 11-17-2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodfather

YES - a repost - but I think it's appropriate in the case that people didn't see it on another thread..........

OK -

everyone --

Listen up.

I am astounded as to how the mood and disposition on this site has deteriorated to a child-like "My Dad can beat up your Dad!" hysteria over the past week......

It's appalling!

A couple of things:

ONE - competition is good! As much as I'd love GM to ALWAYS be the fastest/safest/highest fuel economy/highest quality in EVERY SEGMENT - well, as our friend Peter DeLorenzo would say: " www.aintgonnahappen.com " It's not like they've hired inept people! They are a force to be reckoned with - and I can assure you that no one at Ford or GM takes the other company for granted..........

There will always be friendly competition atwixt GM and Ford - that's a good thing!

TWO - There is no other track that I know of that offers what the Nurburgring offers - and that's why GM uses it (along with other tracks) for performance vehicle development.

THREE - I love it that Mr. Ewanick threw the challenge out there - and I think that Ford may reconsider. I don't know that for a fact, but I just get a feeling that they may - meanwhile - it certainly has created ANOTHER uproar......

FOUR - This is a Camaro site. The name "Camaro" means "friend, pal, or comrade" - keep that in mind. As I said in another post - there are many who have worked to keep the Camaro Community together - this site and its moderators have worked tirelessly to provide a place for us to come and discuss all things Camaro....... so - if you're a troll - please - take it elsewhere, K?

Let's celebrate that WE - the enthusiasts of the world - have BREATHTAKING performance available to us! If I had told you that Camaro and Mustang would offer you this kind of horsepower even three years ago, you would not have believed me............

The reason why we have this available?

COMPETITION!

Do I love to tease Ford by saying things like

"...well, that's just dumber than a truckload of Mustangs" ????

- OF COURSE! It's done in fun.....because I know that they have very talented people - and frankly, they're my neighbors and they're an American company - God Bless 'em!

So - how 'bout everyone take a 5 minute break -- calm down - take a deep breath - and realize how lucky we are to be able to witness the new golden age in performance automobiles!!!!

Just sayin' --

and...

That is all.

ffrcobra_65 · 11-17-2011, 02:09 PM

ZL1 awesome. GT500 awesome. Seriously guys, HOW CAN WE, as car enthusiasts, LOSE? You see the big picture? If you want bragging rights, get a Veyron. I have so many pals who have lost the essence of the car hobby. They mostly get together now to see and argue who has the most recent baddest car. Idiots.

vroomapunk · 11-17-2011, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4me

I actually like the photo's of fbodfathers camaro "THOR" being pictured
on the blacktop, with car parts all around him. From the l;ooks of things
thor was on a steady diet of Mustang GT's on that day!

I would like to see that picture

motorhead · 11-17-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scythezo6

Because anyone that makes a car that's worth a damn will have it tested there. I do not believe last time I checked that Ford had a mustang on the list close to the ZL1. Ford has the GT up there but I don't think a mustang is up there. In my mind, you can have all that HP but your car was not designed to get to point B from A in a straight line only, just like in life and women there's curves! Yeah!

I understand what your saying ,but I think it would be cool to see the shoot out on American turf. Better yet, make it a best of three series and race at more than one track. Better yet ,wait until they hit the streets and have a field of ZL1s and GT500s from real owners race these factory hot rod for pinks. LOL

toesuf94 · 11-17-2011, 02:13 PM

It truly is a great time to be a car enthusiest here in the good ol' US of A. I happen to think the new GT500 is a good looking car...and I will wave as I pass them on the road.

lil_red_v6 · 11-17-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toesuf94

It truly is a great time to be a car enthusiest here in the good ol' US of A. I happen to think the new GT500 is a good looking car...and I will wave as I pass them on the road.

thumbs

up::

GoldenBear · 11-17-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I suspect that the ZL1 is going to be a more balanced car - and I suspect that the Mustang may have the edge in straightline acceleration (getting all that power to the pavement is the challenge)

I agree. I think that with the IRS and Magnetic Ride Suspension the ZL1 will likely be a better all around performing vehicle and track car, and with the solid rear axle and an over abundance of power the GT500 may be better suited to the drag strip (if it can be successfully launched). Both cars will have more performance than one will reasonably be able to fully use on public roads.

Therefore, which car one chooses will likely come down to the type of applications for which one is intending to use the car, and, of course, the styling that one prefers. I clearly prefer the styling of the ZL1. The only Mustangs that I thought had good styling were the 1964 1/2 to 1966, and 1969 models.

motorhead · 11-17-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

ZL1 awesome. GT500 awesome. Seriously guys, HOW CAN WE, as car enthusiasts, LOSE? You see the big picture? If you want bragging rights, get a Veyron. I have so many pals who have lost the essence of the car hobby. They mostly get together now to see and argue who has the most recent baddest car. Idiots.

That's easy for you to say when you can afford one of each. That's like rich people saying that money isn't everything.

Kidding. I couldn't agree with you more.

11-17-2011, 01:58 PM	#253
fbodfather Drives: Camaros................ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seven Fields, PA (Pittsburgh) Posts: 4,523	YES - a repost - but I think it's appropriate in the case that people didn't see it on another thread.......... OK - everyone -- Listen up. I am astounded as to how the mood and disposition on this site has deteriorated to a child-like "My Dad can beat up your Dad!" hysteria over the past week...... It's appalling! A couple of things: ONE - competition is good! As much as I'd love GM to ALWAYS be the fastest/safest/highest fuel economy/highest quality in EVERY SEGMENT - well, as our friend Peter DeLorenzo would say: " www.aintgonnahappen.com " It's not like they've hired inept people! They are a force to be reckoned with - and I can assure you that no one at Ford or GM takes the other company for granted.......... There will always be friendly competition atwixt GM and Ford - that's a good thing! TWO - There is no other track that I know of that offers what the Nurburgring offers - and that's why GM uses it (along with other tracks) for performance vehicle development. THREE - I love it that Mr. Ewanick threw the challenge out there - and I think that Ford may reconsider. I don't know that for a fact, but I just get a feeling that they may - meanwhile - it certainly has created ANOTHER uproar...... FOUR - This is a Camaro site. The name "Camaro" means "friend, pal, or comrade" - keep that in mind. As I said in another post - there are many who have worked to keep the Camaro Community together - this site and its moderators have worked tirelessly to provide a place for us to come and discuss all things Camaro....... so - if you're a troll - please - take it elsewhere, K? Let's celebrate that WE - the enthusiasts of the world - have BREATHTAKING performance available to us! If I had told you that Camaro and Mustang would offer you this kind of horsepower even three years ago, you would not have believed me............ The reason why we have this available? COMPETITION! Do I love to tease Ford by saying things like "...well, that's just dumber than a truckload of Mustangs" ???? - OF COURSE! It's done in fun.....because I know that they have very talented people - and frankly, they're my neighbors and they're an American company - God Bless 'em! So - how 'bout everyone take a 5 minute break -- calm down - take a deep breath - and realize how lucky we are to be able to witness the new golden age in performance automobiles!!!! Just sayin' -- __________________

11-17-2011, 02:05 PM	#257
Z4me Drives: 2013 ZL1 IOM Vin #169 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,953	I actually like the photo's of fbodfathers camaro "THOR" being pictured on the blacktop, with car parts all around him. From the l;ooks of things thor was on a steady diet of Mustang GT's on that day! __________________

11-17-2011, 02:13 PM	#263
toesuf94 Drives: THR #11 E-force supercharged Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 4,746	It truly is a great time to be a car enthusiest here in the good ol' US of A. I happen to think the new GT500 is a good looking car...and I will wave as I pass them on the road. __________________ Cars and women are both going to give you problems...but you can pay somebody else to fix your car!

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