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Alain · 02-26-2011, 11:58 AM

Ok I see. Im really curious to hear what you have to say after the test drive.

ssmike · 02-26-2011, 12:19 PM

I will definatly post up my review as soon as I can! Like I said, it may be a few weeks though!

njdad61 · 02-26-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tom692010

Got an answer back from the dealership,apparently it's the short throw shifter I installed that's all......right

I just put the MGW on about a week ago but the grinding was happening well before that. If I hear any crap about the shifter being the cause (basically calling me a liar), I'm going to blow a damn gasket...

How is it not obvious to them that there is no way an aftermarket shifter could cause this problem?

tom692010 · 02-26-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by njdad61

I just put the MGW on about a week ago but the grinding was happening well before that. If I hear any crap about the shifter being the cause (basically calling me a liar), I'm going to blow a damn gasket...

How is it not obvious to them that there is no way an aftermarket shifter could cause this problem?

That will be the answer for them if they want to use it....because you modified it.If you truly want to pursue it you'll have to reinstall the stock shifter.Or check around because I'm finding out this warranty stuff differs from dealer to dealer.

Orange Krate · 02-26-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmike

I just picked my car up from the transmission replacement but the weather sucks so it'll be a while before I'll have a chance to really test it out! GM said that it's a brand new trans but I've seen guys with 2011's with the same prob so we'll see! Nice thing is that replacing the trans for me killed 2 birds with 1 stone....notchy shifting (hopefully improved now) and now I don't have to worry about my output shaft blowing up (my vin is under the 25,000 mark)!

SSMike,
Not 100% positive but I am fairly sure the output shaft would have been an upgrade inside the new trans. My guess is that if the notchy shift and grinding issue are gone that the output shaft will be good as well. Keep us posted. If you still feel the trans is a tad notchy that might not be too bad a thing because in talking to friends with Vettes who have the tremec, they say it is the nature of the trans. I can live with a bit of that but the grinding is BS from the get go. If you end up going back to the dealer anytime soon you might want to ask them what they think about the use of Royal Purple.

ssmike · 02-26-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Orange Krate

SSMike,
Not 100% positive but I am fairly sure the output shaft would have been an upgrade inside the new trans. My guess is that if the notchy shift and grinding issue are gone that the output shaft will be good as well. Keep us posted. If you still feel the trans is a tad notchy that might not be too bad a thing because in talking to friends with Vettes who have the tremec, they say it is the nature of the trans. I can live with a bit of that but the grinding is BS from the get go. If you end up going back to the dealer anytime soon you might want to ask them what they think about the use of Royal Purple.

Yea I was told by the GM rep that my new trans definatly has the upgraded output shaft! I agree that I can and will put up with a little notchy feel but NOT grinding or Missed shifts! We'll see how it is soon!

njdad61 · 02-26-2011, 08:47 PM

To be sure I am armed with the right information when I go see the dealer, is this the correct part number for the new carbon fiber blocking rings, or is it for the old bronze ones?

19256242

And the 2nd gear part number should be 19256243, right?

I'll also make sure they order the Input Shaft Shims, part number 19178669-76. I wrote down the part and dealer info from others who have gotten theirs fixed correctly as well. Hopefully the service manager will be willing to call another dealership to verify that this is an actual problem and not just "Operating as Designed".....

Orange Krate · 02-26-2011, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njdad61

To be sure I am armed with the right information when I go see the dealer, is this the correct part number for the new carbon fiber blocking rings, or is it for the old bronze ones?

19256242

And the 2nd gear part number should be 19256243, right?

I'll also make sure they order the Input Shaft Shims, part number 19178669-76, if they decide to do anything at all, that is... I wrote down the part and dealer info from others who have gotten theirs fixed correctly as well. Hopefully the service manager will be willing to call another dealership to verify that this is an actual problem and not just "Operating as Designed".....

If you are having the problem and it is well documented, I wouldn't settle for anything less than a change out of the existing trans to a new one. In the long run it is cheaper for the dealer time wise to just do a swap out. Tearing one down and rebuilding it is much more time consuming. The GM Hotline may be helpful if there are questions/complaints. At this point there is only one person I know of that would touch my Tremec and he is on the east coast and I am on the west! (Rick@rkt56 is the man!)

ssmike · 02-27-2011, 09:02 AM

+1! My dealership changed out my complete transmission and I'm glad! I was told by the service manager that they didn't know how long it would take for the change out because they NEVER did a Camaro transmission! Imagine what a catastrophe it could have been if they were presented with the task to actually tear my trans apart and try to repair the gears and blocking rings?

OUTATIME · 02-27-2011, 11:01 AM

Can everyone shift into reverse with the car off?

Because I can't. When the car is on, I can, so it's not such a huge deal. I'm also getting super notchy shifts after the car being out of service for nearly 2 months, even when it's warmed up completely.

Rick@RKT56 · 02-27-2011, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njdad61

To be sure I am armed with the right information when I go see the dealer, is this the correct part number for the new carbon fiber blocking rings, or is it for the old bronze ones?

19256242

And the 2nd gear part number should be 19256243, right?

I'll also make sure they order the Input Shaft Shims, part number 19178669-76, if they decide to do anything at all, that is... I wrote down the part and dealer info from others who have gotten theirs fixed correctly as well. Hopefully the service manager will be willing to call another dealership to verify that this is an actual problem and not just "Operating as Designed".....

Yes in all part #'s. I have not seen the 19256242 in person but that has to be the updated carbon blocking ring. The GM parts dept will have this new part # in their system.

Rick@RKT56 · 02-27-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Orange Krate

If you are having the problem and it is well documented, I wouldn't settle for anything less than a change out of the existing trans to a new one. In the long run it is cheaper for the dealer time wise to just do a swap out. Tearing one down and rebuilding it is much more time consuming. The GM Hotline may be helpful if there are questions/complaints. At this point there is only one person I know of that would touch my Tremec and he is on the east coast and I am on the west! (Rick@rkt56 is the man!)

Thanks Orange Krate! I have gone through well over 20 or so Corvette TR6060's. This is now a popular upgrade for C5/C6 Vettes putting down more than 800 RWHP. I'll be doing this swap when I finish my forged 402 with a YSI Vortech set up.

MiSTER · 02-27-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OUTATIME

Can everyone shift into reverse with the car off?

Because I can't. When the car is on, I can, so it's not such a huge deal. I'm also getting super notchy shifts after the car being out of service for nearly 2 months, even when it's warmed up completely.

There is a reverse lockout solenoid in the TR6060. Basically when your car is off, power to the reverse lockout solenoid is off.

ssmike · 02-28-2011, 06:23 PM

Update: I finally had a chance to take it out for a short spin! 2nd gear definate improvement, 3rd gear still a little notchy. It'll be a couple months though before I can really come to any conclusions. The weather is still cold and these Tremecs are known for being notchy when cold. Also I figure a couple months for the new trans to break in and loosen up a little! Clutch feel seems excellent!

02-26-2011, 08:47 PM	#259
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Alain Drives: 2016 Challenger Hellcat, 2018 ZL1LE Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 3,003	Ok I see. Im really curious to hear what you have to say after the test drive.

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ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,841	Update: I finally had a chance to take it out for a short spin! 2nd gear definate improvement, 3rd gear still a little notchy. It'll be a couple months though before I can really come to any conclusions. The weather is still cold and these Tremecs are known for being notchy when cold. Also I figure a couple months for the new trans to break in and loosen up a little! Clutch feel seems excellent!