08-16-2014, 08:35 PM | #15 |
Drives: 2012 1SS, 6spd. many mods 478 rwhp Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Harrisburg Pa.
Posts: 283
|
|
08-16-2014, 08:44 PM | #16 |
drinks virgil's
Drives: 2010 2SS M6 Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Missouri
Posts: 448
|
You don't have to have the lopey idle and irritating manners of a small lsa, large lift/long duration cam.
Check out some of Ligenfelter's cams. Very smooth idle and great street manners while making big power. |
08-16-2014, 10:49 PM | #17 |
Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: el paso tx
Posts: 547
|
Considering that a cam swap on a l99 isnt cheap might as well go with something thats gonna give you more power. I sure GPI or Lethal can work something up for your needs.
__________________
Vararam
Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed |
08-16-2014, 10:56 PM | #18 |
|
Yeah, with parts and labor Im looking at about $5500.
__________________
2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan,
Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs |
08-17-2014, 12:08 AM | #19 |
Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: el paso tx
Posts: 547
|
I was on the same boat with my cam but I have a ls3. At first I wanted something tame and was worried about drivability. But I figured I might as well get the most out of it while im doing it. I ended up with the nightfury and it drives awesome and makes great power im glad with the turn out.
__________________
Vararam
Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed |
08-17-2014, 04:52 AM | #20 |
Drives: 2010 camaro SS... shell... Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 237
|
I feel you on the drivability part. Some people can live with surging and bucking and to me it just makes it a pain to drive the car. You can get a nice cam that you can drive and not have to "just deal with"
One recommendation is Ls9 cam, has a perfect smooth idle, you can even drop the Rpms down to 600 or so at idle to sip a little less gas, it's cheap (125$ for camshaft alone) and effective and will give you a very modest bump in power close to what you're hunting, while remaining perfect to drive. However there are plenty more options and ones that will get you more power without sacrifices. I have a custom grind cam, I currently have it set to idle at 750 and it has a lil chop to it, but at 1,000 rpm it's smooth. You having an auto you could maybe eak out a bit more before you get the lope you don't want, but not sure how your auto would take it tho, not knowledgable about autos. LOW 220s intake and high 220s exhaust on a mid teen (15+) lsa should put you in the ballpark you want and you can set the lift to whatever your comfort is. Personal experience of 3 cams in same motor(NOT a STOCK motor) on a 6-speed car: 236/246 110 lsa i made 485tq and 515hp couldn't drive below 2,000rpms without surging. I hated it. Couldn't use 6th gear ever even on highway the sob jerked around The ls9 cam in same motor made 480tq and 485hp. Smooth like stock, perfect DD. But I knew I could go bigger... Custom grind makes 525tq 505hp NO surging, daily drivable, and it's beast.
__________________
tried LSXTC...now I'm LSXOD...
|
08-18-2014, 03:05 PM | #21 | |
Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Palm Bay, FL
Posts: 2,845
|
Quote:
There is a really good DIY on cam swaps in that section. I learned on SBCs and BB Mopars and this was the first time I opened up an LS engine, but I felt it was no big deal. Certainly a lot cleaner than the old junk yard motors we pulled back then.
__________________
2010 SS - Kind of an On3 kit, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes.
2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes. |
|
08-18-2014, 04:18 PM | #22 | |
|
Quote:
|
|
08-18-2014, 04:22 PM | #23 | |
Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,646
|
^^ funny shit
lets hear that TSP 231 236 just so OP is sure
__________________
13' 1LE
Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me. |
|
08-18-2014, 04:37 PM | #24 |
|
|
08-18-2014, 07:12 PM | #25 |
|
__________________
|
08-19-2014, 10:15 PM | #26 |
Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clermont, IN
Posts: 3,297
|
OP, you can achieve what you want very easily...as many have said. Something in a 224-228 dur. and keeping lift under .600. LSA in the 115-117 area. Its not all about big cam/big numbers. All those big numbers do you no good if they don't kick in till 5,000 rpm. We have big heavy cars. Your smaller cam will give you max torque from 1500-5500+ rpms (where you need it). Also, keeping it small will avoid the extra expense of adding a stall converter. Good luck.
__________________
2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419.
Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!! |
08-19-2014, 10:57 PM | #27 |
Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: el paso tx
Posts: 547
|
Avenging Orange is right. My NF cam is one of the larger street cams and on the dyno sheets its close to stock till you hit the upper rpms starting about 3500+ it starts making power and at 5000 thats the sweet spot where it really makes a difference, 55rwhp to be exact.
__________________
Vararam
Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed |
|
|
|
|