ELECTRIC C8

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by soloknight6

Looks like RWD mid-engine V8 (probably the 6.2), coupled with an electric motor or two driving the front wheels. Notice how the front wheels start rotating faster than the rear wheels, maybe it's the lag between electric torque and ICE power stroke.

The funny thing is they spinning because all the weight is on the rear now.

My Tesla Model 3 Performance had dual motors for front and rear. When you launch from stop the rear motor is really doing all the work since all the weight is transferred. The front motor is programmed to help a little but it really can't dig in until you get some speed. I think someone posted it doesn't really kick in until like 30mph or so. I know I could hear the front induction Also, when cruising on the highway the front motors is not really used to save electrons.

Here is the future for modders.

https://insideevs.com/news/518692/te...y-drive-units/

[ariZona28]

Originally Posted by Edward Paul

As long as it puts out, I don't care how it's powered.

I have the same criteria for female companionship.

[cellsafemode]

electric C8 has the potential to be a diy / modder's dream if chevy cares about carving out a market that is insulated from poaching by other performance electric cars currently on the market.

Having something that allows DIY modding without a bunch of computer restrictions or proprietary non-serviceable components would set it apart in away that other options just have not needed to care about supporting. And chevy's userbase is already accustomed to being able to tweak their vehicles, unlike many euro options where modding their vehicles is far less common or asian oem's options being geared towards cheap appliance roles.

Though, i have little hope that this will be the direction things go. OEM's in general have been on a trend of eliminating being owner friendly, fairly significantly, in their current ICE options and i see no reason why their motivation of greed wont proceed into EV. Despite the lower cost of EV maintenance and fewer - often more simpler mechanical components. I suspect that hit to their service dealer industry will cause an increase in lobbying to lock things down even faster and more strictly than they had been and push harder against the gear head hobbyists who want to actually own their vehicle and do what they want with it.

[cellsafemode]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Have you driven an EV yet? Once the instant torque honeymoon wears off, you start longing for something more. They tend to have a one dimensional feel to them. Hopefully GM and others can find a way to make them fun but I have my doubts since vibration, exhaust notes and shifting gears add so much to the experience for enthusiasts.

I would think this would be serviced by the aftermarket (if they are allowed), where tactile, auditory feedback can be created to the user's exact desire thru speakers dedicated for that purpose. And transmission and ESC programming that sets a power profile that the user wants. Potentially mimicking familiar engine/drivetrain types. Some of which might even be emulated entirely via software, allowing you to switch it on or back to stock dynamically. Some might require physical changes.

i think in general, this market that wants to drive and enjoy it the way we do is small enough that the OEM's just dont care about making products for us if they dont have to. It's cheaper and more profitable for them not to. They've been actively building cars more hostile to our hobby ever since they've been able to (really since proprietary bespoke computers found their way in cars).

So i dont expect OEM options to cater to us, but i hope they leave the door open for the aftermarket to take up the slack ... and not lock that door behind a bunch of nonsense anti-consumer stuff like you see in John Deere vehicles.

[UnknownJinX]

I mean, if they continue to make the ICE models then I am not against it as much as some folks here. It's not my cup of tea, but hey, more options.

But we know the ICE models will likely be going away at some point. The question is just when. That's the sad part.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

I mean, if they continue to make the ICE models then I am not against it as much as some folks here. It's not my cup of tea, but hey, more options.

But we know the ICE models will likely be going away at some point. The question is just when. That's the sad part.

In the case of GM they are going all in on EV so the Corvette will probably the the last ICE based vehicle and you can see they keep going upmarket into exotic territory. Depending on how quickly they can ramp battery production you probably have less than 5 years when it comes to GM.

It is nice to see Nissan and Toyota building sports cars again. Nissan Z twin turbo 400hp with a manual for under $50k. They recently announced a manual transmission for the Toyota/BWM Supra and GR86/BRZ has been refreshed.

[Gen6cyl]

In certain areas you might be shamed or violated if you drive a ice.

[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

The funny thing is they spinning because all the weight is on the rear now.

My Tesla Model 3 Performance had dual motors for front and rear. When you launch from stop the rear motor is really doing all the work since all the weight is transferred. The front motor is programmed to help a little but it really can't dig in until you get some speed. I think someone posted it doesn't really kick in until like 30mph or so. I know I could hear the front induction Also, when cruising on the highway the front motors is not really used to save electrons.

Here is the future for modders.

https://insideevs.com/news/518692/te...y-drive-units/

I can see it now when people hit the 30 MPH mark "yo EVtak just kicked in!".


And I love all the whining in here. Let's go ahead and imagine what would happen if GM continued to power the Corvette with an ICE. They would wind up spending a lot of money on R&D trying to find a way to overcome the performance advantages of an EV and would probably go bankrupt in the process. Either that, or the Corvette name would lose in comparison to everything from a lowly Kia/Hyundai (they have EVs coming out this fall that are good for sub 4 second sprints to 60 MPH) to a Nissan SUV, or worse. I personally don't like the idea of a Corvette being blown off the line by a soccer mom vehicle and am more than ok with the Corvette team protecting the brand. If that means having to delve into the EV realm, so be it. I would love to see a Corvette branded vehicle blow the doors off of a Tesla roadster with an MSRP that the working Joe can swing.

[Need4Camaro]

All I can say is meh.. ..this is coming from the top, not from actual market demand. They are forcefeeding this crap down our throats.

Personally I could deal with a Hybrid 7th Gen Camaro if that meant we could still have an ICE variant of our Muscle/Sports car (or however you classify it) for another 6 or 7 years.. ..but I am not ready to jump on the bandwagon of EV's yet. They still have use-practicality hurdles to overcome.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

I can see it now when people hit the 30 MPH mark "yo EVtak just kicked in!".


And I love all the whining in here. Let's go ahead and imagine what would happen if GM continued to power the Corvette with an ICE. They would wind up spending a lot of money on R&D trying to find a way to overcome the performance advantages of an EV and would probably go bankrupt in the process. Either that, or the Corvette name would lose in comparison to everything from a lowly Kia/Hyundai (they have EVs coming out this fall that are good for sub 4 second sprints to 60 MPH) to a Nissan SUV, or worse. I personally don't like the idea of a Corvette being blown off the line by a soccer mom vehicle and am more than ok with the Corvette team protecting the brand. If that means having to delve into the EV realm, so be it. I would love to see a Corvette branded vehicle blow the doors off of a Tesla roadster with an MSRP that the working Joe can swing.

Yeah, EVtec. In the case of the Tesla dual motor cars you can't feel it, although you do hear the whine of the front induction motor. High pitched, a little like supercharger whine.

The main issue I see moving forward is if the majority of the industry values performance by 0-60mph times, then game over, EVs rule. I sold my Tesla Model 3 Performance but still have the slower standard Model 3. The M3P would do 3.1 0-60mph, the standard Model 3 does it in 5.6 sec. Here's the thing, they both deliver the same feel. It is the square torque curve that makes all the EVs feel quick. Combined with a single speed transmission everything is instant.

So, I kind of look at it like this, the EV powertrain is more like an on off switch. You press the pedal and bam, full on but then the car doesn't actually pull any harder as you keep it floored. With the exception of the Telsa Model S Plaid, flat torque and falling as you gain speed since no gearing. The the fun in the EV is the quick point and shoot and lower TCO.

Compared to the V8s where you get a nice dose of torque at low rpm thanks to gearing and lots so drama as power builds, add in real some pleasing noises and and more engagement.

Performance levels are so high now that you can't really enjoy these cars that much anyway. In fact, I still think a Miata or GR86 is a more fun car to drive on the city streets since you can wind the snot out of them.

[Timuh60]

Anybody been following the Dodge e-muscle project coming? Looks like they are trying to tackle a lot of the issues mentioned here.

[Edward Paul]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

I can see it now when people hit the 30 MPH mark "yo EVtak just kicked in!".


And I love all the whining in here. Let's go ahead and imagine what would happen if GM continued to power the Corvette with an ICE. They would wind up spending a lot of money on R&D trying to find a way to overcome the performance advantages of an EV and would probably go bankrupt in the process. Either that, or the Corvette name would lose in comparison to everything from a lowly Kia/Hyundai (they have EVs coming out this fall that are good for sub 4 second sprints to 60 MPH) to a Nissan SUV, or worse. I personally don't like the idea of a Corvette being blown off the line by a soccer mom vehicle and am more than ok with the Corvette team protecting the brand. If that means having to delve into the EV realm, so be it. I would love to see a Corvette branded vehicle blow the doors off of a Tesla roadster with an MSRP that the working Joe can swing.

Doing it without making a sound is a major plus.

[SaReNi]

wait until everyone who has an EV has to replace the battery or batteries. and then there's the disposal of the old ones..... going to be interesting.

[L2SS455]

GM says it will produce electric Chevrolet Corvettes. Could this be the End of Camaro!
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/25/gm-s...corvettes.html