Mercedes and BMW equivalents

[Stew]

Originally Posted by MADBOWTIE

I must run across a lot of folks who can't drive, or maybe my camaro is really lucky Is'nt the M5 an automatic?

M5 is available in 6 speed manual and 7 speed SMG, one thing is that the M5 has 2 modes as mentioned previously, regular mode provides 400 HP, M mode provides 500.

[MrandMrsNinja]

Originally Posted by MADBOWTIE

I must run across a lot of folks who can't drive, or maybe my camaro is really lucky Is'nt the M5 an automatic?

[06blownSS]

Originally Posted by MrandMrsNinja

stock-anything M and possibly the 135i

Modded-135i and 335i..if they can make it down the track without the HPFP going out (sorry, if you don't know BMW then you may not get that joke)

don't know much about the MBs

and just for future refrence, it's Bimmer I'm on E90 post and they get all worked up about that for some reason..lol

HAHAHAHA I ran my cousin's modded 135i several times at the track, very close competition until he ran a 17 second 1/4

[pgviper]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

An Audi S4 runs 12 second 1/4 miles(so it would be close), an Audi TT RS runs 11s. A BMW 1 M would be close as well.

A friend of mine has a 2011 S4 and does a consistent 13.0 1/4 mile with an intake.

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by MADBOWTIE

UH............NO. A very Smug guy in a new M5 found out the hard way that he needs to be more careful what cars he try's to destroy My car is not an auto though. He might have faired better tangleing with an automatic car.

I believe we're talking stock vs stock, AGAIN.
I put down 400 plus rwhp, ask the 5th Gen Camaro guys how much the plus is....

[4DoorRocket]

If they are both stock and the drivers are equal...

The BMW 1M and M3 would be the closest competition but both quicker. The M5 and M6 also quicker.

I think a lot of it has to do with weight, gearing, and the ability to really use those every bit of those rpms.

[mike25]

Originally Posted by 4DoorRocket

If they are both stock and the drivers are equal...

The BMW 1M and M3 would be the closest competition but both quicker. The M5 and M6 also quicker.

I think a lot of it has to do with weight, gearing, and the ability to really use those every bit of those rpms.

i wonder how well the 1m and m3 take to mods?

[1985airborne]

I beg to differ...Anything AMG new model will not crush a SS. M3s M5 M6 I have beaten them all. Also remeber some AMG series comes stock S/C'd

Originally Posted by LEADfoot927

For Mercedes any thing with "AMG" will take an SS. This is with new models. I've beaten older models like the C32 AMG and S55 AMG.


The SS can run even with a BMW M3, 1M, and x5/6M on straights. M5 and M6 are slightly faster in all categories. Again this is with newer models. An SS will take respectable older models such as E39 M5 or E46 M3.

Ive driven all mentioned except 1M and X5/6 M.

[lexlueger]

Originally Posted by MADBOWTIE

UH............NO. A very Smug guy in a new M5 found out the hard way that he needs to be more careful what cars he try's to destroy My car is not an auto though. He might have faired better tangleing with an automatic car.

LOL@ You. Wish you would run into me in my M5 one day.

[LEADfoot927]

The SS did very well against these M's. Im pretty sure at least the first two were stock.

[IROCanSS]

I am going to be the voice of reason...

Camaro SS coupe... $32,000 up to $40,000

M-anything, AMG-anything, Audi S-anything... Well over $50 to $100K

Stupid comparison.

Why not throw in the GT2/GT3... I bet they can take a SS too!

Also, you'd be surprized what a modded M6 Camaro will do... espescially with a good driver.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

I am going to be the voice of reason...

Camaro SS coupe... $32,000 up to $40,000

M-anything, AMG-anything, Audi S-anything... Well over $50 to $100K

Stupid comparison.

Why not throw in the GT2/GT3... I bet they can take a SS too!

Also, you'd be surprized what a modded M6 Camaro will do... espescially with a good driver.

You know that they compare the 5.0 GT to the M3 right and the OP asked for the equivalents. Those are the equivalents, both the M3 and 1M Coupe would fair very well against the Camaro especially with the M-Dual Clutch Transmission. Sure if you are talking about price wise then yeah there is no comparison but the M3's interior is also a million +++++ times better than the Camaro, its really sad to because the Camaro Concept interior was actually better than what the M3 has now IMHO.

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

You know that they compare the 5.0 GT to the M3 right and the OP asked for the equivalents. Those are the equivalents, both the M3 and 1M Coupe would fair very well against the Camaro especially with the M-Dual Clutch Transmission. Sure if you are talking about price wise then yeah there is no comparison but the M3's interior is also a million +++++ times better than the Camaro, its really sad to because the Camaro Concept interior was actually better than what the M3 has now IMHO.

I have also seen where "they" compared a Lotus to an Apache helicopter... and a Bugatti to a Cesna... does that make it logical?

Why they compare the GT to the M3 is beyond me. And maybe the BMW interior is better... I would sure hope so. It IS a BMW, not a Chevy.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Originally Posted by LEADfoot927

The SS did very well against these M's. Im pretty sure at least the first two were stock.

That race was a roll on(advantage for Camaro) against an M3 hardtop convertible, which has a curb weight of 4100-4200 lbs. With the passenger and driver you can bet it weighed 4500 lbs. + The M3 would need 470 hp + to run with LS3 or 450 hp + to run with L99(horsepower to curb weight), in theory.