V6 camaro bolt ons vs. V6 mustang tuned

[Tmick5jr]

i raced a 14 and heres what happened. I have high flow cats, cai, and an axle back exhaust. he just had an exhaust and i was consistently beating him by .3 seconds on the track. i pulled on him really really hard down low.

[MagnumForceGB]

Originally Posted by USAFS197

That's an old video, too. They've since consistently gone faster.

I know all about the MPT tune, I have one on my Camaro.

Its the only one I could find in a hurry, since video evidence is required some times. MPT is probably the best tuning company I have ever dealt with, guys are very knowledgeable. The Cyclone is also a great engine, I believe stock internals have gone 9's before.

[USAFS197]

Originally Posted by Tmick5jr

i raced a 14 and heres what happened. I have high flow cats, cai, and an axle back exhaust. he just had an exhaust and i was consistently beating him by .3 seconds on the track. i pulled on him really really hard down low.

Good kill but, that's not really very indicative. It's much the same as L99/LS3 guys saying they take Coyotes all day long. It may have been more of a driver issue than a vehicle one.

[USAFS197]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

Its the only one I could find in a hurry, since video evidence is required some times. MPT is probably the best tuning company I have ever dealt with, guys are very knowledgeable. The Cyclone is also a great engine, I believe stock internals have gone 9's before.

Yeah but dude was super tight lipped about what he did to run 9's and get the car to hold together. Whatever it was, he got the attention of Ford.

[HeavyIOM]

He will win, you will lose. His car is just a faster car also Auto vs manual, auto wins. Also the tune does add power, but the cam aspect of the tune adds no additional power.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by mandolino

Okay so there's a friend of a friend with a v6 mustang 2013 I think who has been wanting to race me so we've been thinking about headding to the track. He says he has just a tune and ghost cam au to trans. In my 2011 camaro I have a CAI cold air intake, a vmax I.M. spacer, mgw short throw shifter and vitesse throttle control.... I should be able to take him no problem right? Or does that ghost cam put up good #s

The few mods you do have ad very little power. The Mustang takes this one.

[mandolino]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

The few mods you do have ad very little power. The Mustang takes this one.

not what i wanted to hear but i was thinking the same I guess its time for a tune ? worth it with out headers? i live in California so i don't want to do things that aren't easily reversible for smog

[mandolino]

okay guys sooo... what would i have to do to win this? for the bowtie! is a tune enough? can i get a custom dyno or a trifecta is good?

[rontammy0]

Well the v6 mustang that I saw and had to race because he was bugging me for so long didn't get into the 13s at all......I'm thinking this isn't very common. He did run fender to fender with a 2010 challenger r/t. Which didn't break into the 13s either. I was way more impressed with the Eco boost that ran 13.9 totally stock with a driver that had no idea what to do. Did I mention I beat 2014 Audi r8 v8 by a car. It's sure was a mixed bag at the track last fri. At least these guys were running their cars hard.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by mandolino

okay guys sooo... what would i have to do to win this? for the bowtie! is a tune enough? can i get a custom dyno or a trifecta is good?

With just a tune and an average driver I'm thinking he is a 13.7 car. Maybe a bit higher or a bit lower. Get your car into that neighbourhood . A tune will help.....i have a v8 so I'm not exactly sure what mods will work well on the v6. There are plenty of guys here that should be ale to help. Make sure you get time slips for both...I'm eager go see how you do.

[mandolino]

don't know he does have a convertible tho so that adds to his weight. also no i have zl1 replicas 9 in the front 10 in the back running 315s honestly pretty great for launch except for some wheel hop

Originally Posted by Sanjay Collins

Do you know if he has the Pony Package? And are you still running the factory LS tires?

[USAFS197]

The convertible definitely hurts him. I haven't seen much if any of the V6 guys in the low 13's or high 12's with just bolt-ons. Your wheel and tire setup is good for a launch but will hurt you on the top end. You'll always want the smallest tire possible that will give you the most acceptable amount of traction. It's all about weight and rolling resistance.

Cut him at the light and hope he botches his launch. Then just hold on tight until you cross the lights and hope you stay ahead.

[MagnumForceGB]

A tune on a LLT doesn't do much unless the tuner is extremely good at tuning the LNF engine. For autos the transmission can be made better but engine wise, learning what fuel it likes is more important. If you do tune, the lambda needs to be 0.88, lean compared to Port Injection. Direct injection cools the charge more and can run leaner.

[mandolino]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

A tune on a LLT doesn't do much unless the tuner is extremely good at tuning the LNF engine. For autos the transmission can be made better but engine wise, learning what fuel it likes is more important. If you do tune, the lambda needs to be 0.88, lean compared to Port Injection. Direct injection cools the charge more and can run leaner.

Trifecta tune probably isn't worth it in terms of gains then ? I hear that the llt left alot of power on the table? Where the hell is it hiding?!? I've been trying to find some one for a custom dyno but no one in my area does it, there's a guy that works magic but only on the ls3. He said he wouldn't do my car.