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Chevrolet and the dealer network are not required to warranty these items. A specific dealer can offer a warranty on installed parts (exhaust, supercharger, ect) but it does not necessarily carry over. You have to be careful here because they make a ton of money on labor and will do everything possible to sell you this. For example, if you get a supercharger installed at a dealer in Florida (and when you ask em if it voids your warranty they say "no") and you break down in PA, the dealership in PA most likely will not fix your car under warranty because they are not required to. Note - This is what one service manager at one dealership said. Take it with a grain of salt as I do not know the official Chevy policy on this.
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Now - Stainless Works 2" Headers, Intake, Cam, tune, ect And shepherds we shall be, For thee my lord for thee. Power has descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be.In nomine Patri, Et Fili, Spiritus Sancti |
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08-04-2009, 09:31 AM | #16 | |
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All the more reason for this question, If GM installs the Mods on your car, GM Performance exhaust, and GM shorty headers, options from the factory albeit not available it should be like anything else on the car, Warrantied, Right? |
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08-04-2009, 09:34 AM | #17 | |
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BUT if you go to your dealer complaining of rattle under the car they most likely will not fix it. If you have a problem with your engine they will do everything in their power to blame it on the exhaust. At that point you will have 2 choices A) Pay the $XXXX to fix the car somewhere other than dealership B) Pay $XXXX to lawyers (that you may or may not eventually get back) fighting the dealership in court to maybe eventually fix your car in a year or so. Your choice.
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Now - Stainless Works 2" Headers, Intake, Cam, tune, ect And shepherds we shall be, For thee my lord for thee. Power has descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be.In nomine Patri, Et Fili, Spiritus Sancti |
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08-04-2009, 09:35 AM | #18 | |
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I had this problem with a short shifter on my STi. They did not have any in stock at the time of delivery so I took the car how it was and brought it back a week later for the shifter install. Fast forward a year and 300 miles south. The lockout cable (prevents it from going into reverse without lifting the paddle on the shifter) broke. I went to a different dealer and they would not fix it. Eventually got with the regional rep and he said that because it wasnt on the invoice and done before pickup it would not be covered. I argued with them for a month and after getting Subaru of America (corporate) involved the dealer called me offering to pay for half of the repair. At that point I didnt have time to fight it anymore and had to get it done.
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08-04-2009, 09:50 AM | #19 | |
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10-07-2009, 07:16 AM | #20 |
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My Dealer will warranty any add-ons but GM won't. Their Comment not mine. Also anytime any PCM mods are done (re-flash) it sets a permanent code that can't be removed. The ALDL harness has a internal code sensor that records this. Even replacing the PCM won't remove the code. Someone will make a replacement harness that will fix this? Vendors? Gene
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01-17-2010, 03:06 PM | #21 | |
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http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...ty-intact.html Under the Magnuson-Moss Act, a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage. If the dealer cannot prove such a claim — or it proffers a questionable explanation — it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission administers the Magnuson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law. Thanks SEMA we love ya man... Read more: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...#ixzz0cuElkzZZ My dealer replaced My tranny after Supercharger installed LT headers, flow thru cats, Corsa exhaust, RIP shift short throw shifter, Hennesy CAI and Tune... They even did all the installs! Also replaced a friends Tranny twice who had same setup as mine...He blew second gear twice from miss shifting and they repaired it with new tranny twice. In summary if they can prove the mods actually caused the failure than your out of luck. My dealer didn't even blink. Just fixed and quickly ! |
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03-08-2010, 08:18 AM | #22 |
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Does Modifying My Car Void my Warranty?
Does Modifying My Car Void my Warranty?
Maybe this will help clear things up a bit for commonly asked questions. http://************.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/does-modifying-my-2010-camaro-void-my-warranty/ |
03-08-2010, 09:11 AM | #23 |
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These threads are now merged. Continue your discussion of warranty rights. Everyone should know about their rights as a consumer.
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03-08-2010, 09:30 AM | #24 | |
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I think its the degree of how easily or difficult it is to enforce. Its all well and good to go quoting M-M to the dealer claiming your legitamacy, but the bottom line is if they say no then that's it. Sure you can go to court, but they will no doubt have a whole army of lawyers ready to come at it from every angle, some which you may not even have thought of. Most of us don't have the time or money to go through with this. The corporates do. I don't agree that every law requires litigation to enforce. If the party believes it is likely result in a net loss, they will avoid litigation. The net loss doesn't necessarily refer only to that specific case, but the precendent that case sets for future cases. If they think they can win or at least outlast their opponent, they will go to court. Chances are they have much deeper pockets than the consumer.
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03-08-2010, 09:56 AM | #26 |
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yeah, totally agree
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03-08-2010, 10:46 AM | #27 | |
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And I'm sure SEMA is going to pay your lawyer fees IF your warranty is voided for modifications...this is the elephant in the room that everyone chooses to ignore. As was stated earlier...it is up to YOU (the claimant) to fight with a dealer or manufacturer that denies your warranty claim. The fact that the dealer above replaced transmissions under warranty for cars that were obviously beyond the capabilities of said transmissions is the reason that GM is getting tougher on repairs. If you can't take responsibility for modifications and their outcomes...and afford those responsibilities...then don't mod your car. Don't continue to drive up the cost of new cars by driving up warranty costs for items that should not be warrantied. |
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03-08-2010, 11:03 AM | #28 |
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This may or may not help. It is straight from the manual so it has credibility.
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