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Strokedhog · 01-14-2010, 08:40 PM

Dont mix fluids. Dot 3, 4, and 5 are not compatible. A total flush and new fluids is ok. Also stop launching at redline.

camaro5 · 01-14-2010, 08:55 PM

Corvette's have been dealing with this forever.

The Camaro complicates it further by sharing the brake and clutch resevoir.

I'm going to add a separate clutch resevoir, and use a syringe to change the fluid regulary.

It's a good damn thing I really like this car.

O2BQIK · 01-14-2010, 09:32 PM

Update: The dealership initially suspected a hydraulic issue (as did I), but they claim that they looked over the entire system and couldn't find a thing wrong with it. They decided to replace the clutch and the flywheel. They ordered the parts and gave me the car back while I wait. Although I appreciate the prompt attention to the issue, I fear that if it's an issue as straightforward as boiling fluid as suggested by some here that I will have the same issue with another clutch. I'll update again once the work is done to say whether or not it is fixed.

To those referring to driving habits, etc...your posts are accurate, no argument there, but this is my fourth manual-transmission Camaro. My '91 Camaro has more than 200,000 miles on its STOCK clutch. That would not be the case if my driving habits were unusually bad for a clutch. Hell, at 4900 miles, I don't care what someone's driving habits are (within reason obviously), this shouldn't be an issue.

O2BQIK · 01-14-2010, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corsec

Please keep us updated on your progress. I have been fighting the same problem and I also had the clutch hang up half way engaged during a moderate takeoff switching from 1st to 2nd. It wouldn't go back down, ended up getting my foot under it and was able to pop it up. Dealer says there is nothing wrong with it. I will be very interested to see what you find out.

There is a service bulletin for your exact symptoms, and a GM engineer is looking for cars experiencing this problem so that they can determine a fix. I strongly encourage you to visit your dealer so that they can, if nothing else, record another instance of the problem and advise the engineer.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 01-14-2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O2BQIK

Update: The dealership initially suspected a hydraulic issue (as did I), but they claim that they looked over the entire system and couldn't find a thing wrong with it. They decided to replace the clutch and the flywheel. They ordered the parts and gave me the car back while I wait. Although I appreciate the prompt attention to the issue, I fear that if it's an issue as straightforward as boiling fluid as suggested by some here that I will have the same issue with another clutch. I'll update again once the work is done to say whether or not it is fixed.

To those referring to driving habits, etc...your posts are accurate, no argument there, but this is my fourth manual-transmission Camaro. My '91 Camaro has more than 200,000 miles on its STOCK clutch. That would not be the case if my driving habits were unusually bad for a clutch. Hell, at 4900 miles, I don't care what someone's driving habits are (within reason obviously), this shouldn't be an issue.

Thank you for the update... I agree 100% that 4,900 miles is too soon for these problems to be related to driving habits, unless the driver should never be allowed behind the wheel... good Luck With the repairs..

I'm wanting to get back home and see if the dealer tech's can figure out whats wrong with my transmission... Different symptoms... but another thread...

Farks Supercars · 01-15-2010, 12:19 AM

Yea definitely do not launch at redline and never ease up the clutch if you are leaving at high rpm's just pop it fast and quick. I saw a guy drag racing his Camaro this summer, he reved the hell out of it on the line and slowly eased out the clutch. The smell was bad (it made me cringe a little). Plus your better off bogging the engine a little if you have street tires.

Dr Jkel · 01-15-2010, 07:30 AM

So is the problem the slave cylinder or the brake fluid itself?

WICKEDSS · 01-15-2010, 09:34 AM

Mine was doing the same thing... I had some parts on order and installed last night we replaced slave cylinder pressure plate and started bleeding the system and mine is good as new no more two inches fromt the top to take off!!!

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 01-15-2010, 09:39 AM

I did the separate clutch reservoir a long time ago for two reasons one to go to a DOT4 in the clutch reservoir, The 2nd reasons is the clutch reservoir cap is airtight and the one on top of the brake reservoir is not.

Michael_Js · 01-15-2010, 09:42 AM

Any DIY threads on this mod? it sounds like a good idea...

thanks!

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 01-15-2010, 11:06 AM

Never did a DIY but all the info is in this Thread.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...utch+reservoir

And some one more.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31901

Michael_Js · 01-15-2010, 11:54 AM

Thanks, I'll look through it

Recluse · 01-15-2010, 02:46 PM

Does the Camaro have a clutch delay valve, to prevent rapid engagement of the clutch to reduce shock to the drivetrain components (at the expense of the clutch itself)?

I ask because this issue sounds similar to the CDV-related issues that, for example, G35, S2000, and BMW 335i owners have had, as regards the burning smell, pedal getting stuck, etc.

camaro5 · 01-15-2010, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

I did the separate clutch reservoir a long time ago for two reasons one to go to a DOT4 in the clutch reservoir, The 2nd reasons is the clutch reservoir cap is airtight and the one on top of the brake reservoir is not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

Never did a DIY but all the info is in this Thread.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...utch+reservoir

And some one more.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31901

This is the HOT ticket.

xxx Do it!

01-14-2010, 09:32 PM	#17
O2BQIK Drives: 1991 Camaro RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dallas area Posts: 596	Update: The dealership initially suspected a hydraulic issue (as did I), but they claim that they looked over the entire system and couldn't find a thing wrong with it. They decided to replace the clutch and the flywheel. They ordered the parts and gave me the car back while I wait. Although I appreciate the prompt attention to the issue, I fear that if it's an issue as straightforward as boiling fluid as suggested by some here that I will have the same issue with another clutch. I'll update again once the work is done to say whether or not it is fixed. To those referring to driving habits, etc...your posts are accurate, no argument there, but this is my fourth manual-transmission Camaro. My '91 Camaro has more than 200,000 miles on its STOCK clutch. That would not be the case if my driving habits were unusually bad for a clutch. Hell, at 4900 miles, I don't care what someone's driving habits are (within reason obviously), this shouldn't be an issue. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS in black/beige: Sold. \| '91 Camaro RS: Still the dream car! '98 Camaro SS: Incon twin turbo. Sold \| '99 Camaro SS: Heads/cam/bolt-ons. Sold.

01-15-2010, 09:42 AM	#24
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	Any DIY threads on this mod? it sounds like a good idea... thanks! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

01-15-2010, 11:54 AM	#26
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	Thanks, I'll look through it __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

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01-14-2010, 08:40 PM	#15
Strokedhog Drives: 2010 2SS M6 Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New York Posts: 102	Dont mix fluids. Dot 3, 4, and 5 are not compatible. A total flush and new fluids is ok. Also stop launching at redline.

01-14-2010, 08:55 PM	#16
camaro5 Drives: X-15 Velocipede Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,637	Corvette's have been dealing with this forever. The Camaro complicates it further by sharing the brake and clutch resevoir. I'm going to add a separate clutch resevoir, and use a syringe to change the fluid regulary. It's a good damn thing I really like this car.

01-15-2010, 12:19 AM	#20
Farks Supercars Drives: F1R 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 194	Yea definitely do not launch at redline and never ease up the clutch if you are leaving at high rpm's just pop it fast and quick. I saw a guy drag racing his Camaro this summer, he reved the hell out of it on the line and slowly eased out the clutch. The smell was bad (it made me cringe a little). Plus your better off bogging the engine a little if you have street tires.

01-15-2010, 07:30 AM	#21
Dr Jkel and MR. HYDE Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oxford, Alabama Posts: 4,375	So is the problem the slave cylinder or the brake fluid itself?

01-15-2010, 09:34 AM	#22
WICKEDSS Dan Drives: THE BEAST Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ODESSA,TX Posts: 336	Mine was doing the same thing... I had some parts on order and installed last night we replaced slave cylinder pressure plate and started bleeding the system and mine is good as new no more two inches fromt the top to take off!!!

01-15-2010, 09:39 AM	#23
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	I did the separate clutch reservoir a long time ago for two reasons one to go to a DOT4 in the clutch reservoir, The 2nd reasons is the clutch reservoir cap is airtight and the one on top of the brake reservoir is not.

01-15-2010, 11:06 AM	#25
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Never did a DIY but all the info is in this Thread. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...utch+reservoir And some one more. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31901

01-15-2010, 02:46 PM	#27
Recluse Drives: Considering a Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 18	Does the Camaro have a clutch delay valve, to prevent rapid engagement of the clutch to reduce shock to the drivetrain components (at the expense of the clutch itself)? I ask because this issue sounds similar to the CDV-related issues that, for example, G35, S2000, and BMW 335i owners have had, as regards the burning smell, pedal getting stuck, etc.