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xs29j8 · 09-24-2010, 02:29 PM

It has been a problem at many companies, including the aircraft manufacturers that I have worked for. A friend that works at GM Arlington has told me worse stories about alcohol/drug problems out there. And it was only two years ago that Ford workers were caught taking 4 hour long drinking lunches on company pay:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=249190

That forum post has a video link that is dead, but gives the overall idea of the incident in 2008. The companies have to try there best to prevent such violations of policy, and the unions need to cooperate with the company when violators are caught... we will have to see what the UAW does.

XS

*The_Blur* · 09-24-2010, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The biggest problem I see is that the UAW hasn't said anything about it (to my knowledge). As soon as they heard about it they should have told Chrysler to fire them.

The UAW said that what they did is bad but does "exist in our society," as if to accept that this behavior exists and they have to just tolerate it.

Autoblog reported.

8cd03gro · 09-24-2010, 03:01 PM

Idiots. There are plenty of people that would give limbs to have their jobs and they're drinking and blazing on the job. They deserve to be unemployed indefinitely. I'm 20 years old and wouldn't do this idiotic shit. It's disgraceful. This is your workplace gentlemen, not your backyard bbq. If I were one of their kids, I would be absolutely ashamed.

*DGthe3* · 09-24-2010, 03:04 PM

to the UAW

Stew · 09-24-2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xs29j8

It has been a problem at many companies, including the aircraft manufacturers that I have worked for. A friend that works at GM Arlington has told me worse stories about alcohol/drug problems out there. And it was only two years ago that Ford workers were caught taking 4 hour long drinking lunches on company pay:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=249190

That forum post has a video link that is dead, but gives the overall idea of the incident in 2008. The companies have to try there best to prevent such violations of policy, and the unions need to cooperate with the company when violators are caught... we will have to see what the UAW does.

XS

This is a good point and exists in all type of business. I used to be a supervisornat a large nationwide callcenter and it was and still is a huge issue there. THey just do a mouth swab for the drug test and it is very easy to get around. Hell, I found one of the people taking care of new hires with a Mountain Dew bottle spiked with alcohol. Anyways, it happens, just the media and some people like to make it look like a more isolated incident than it is.

Stew · 09-24-2010, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Idiots. There are plenty of people that would give limbs to have their jobs and they're drinking and blazing on the job. They deserve to be unemployed indefinitely.

I agree

Stew · 09-24-2010, 03:23 PM

Ugh, kinda on the same note, Dallas has fired 13officers in less than a week, including 1 office who apparently fired his weapon in his patrol car while drink. What is the country coming too?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...2.3335c2a.html

SS 376 · 09-24-2010, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew

This is a good point and exists in all type of business. I used to be a supervisornat a large nationwide callcenter and it was and still is a huge issue there. THey just do a mouth swab for the drug test and it is very easy to get around. Hell, I found one of the people taking care of new hires with a Mountain Dew bottle spiked with alcohol. Anyways, it happens, just the media and some people like to make it look like a more isolated incident than it is.

Gotta be a slow-ass news day when video of people drinking and smoking on the job is national news. It's stupid and they deserve to be fired, but substance/alcohol abuse is a problem at any company like xs29j8 said. Bailout money doesn't make a damn bit of difference; there's probably people at CitiBank or Goldman Sachs drinking and getting high as we speak.

Morepwr · 09-24-2010, 05:13 PM

Maybe those guys ARE the quality control!

SleepWarz · 09-24-2010, 07:55 PM

It would be fun if they added coffee and caffine beverages to the substace abuse list. Stuff messes you up more than a joint will

A whole lot of people would be fired....

*DGthe3* · 09-24-2010, 07:57 PM

Last I checked caffine doesn't do anything except make you a little jumpy. Working while drunk or high is slightly different.

SleepWarz · 09-24-2010, 08:18 PM

Not only the jumpyness, but the body's requirement for caffine and how tired people get afterwards.... Dangerous imho.

*DGthe3* · 09-24-2010, 09:00 PM

I know what I'm like when I'm drunk, I know what I'm like when I've had a large double-double. I've said and done dumb things while drunk/buzzed. Can't say that anything bad has ever happened to me during caffeine withdrawal.

Zabo · 09-24-2010, 10:26 PM

When I heard about this the first thing out of my mouth was:

"Well how else are they supposed to comprehend putting the thing together?"

Followed by a diatribe that ended with:

"Holy f**k.. how did they get 375,000 mpg with just a hamster and a used coffee can..."

09-24-2010, 02:29 PM	#15
xs29j8 Hemis, Six Packs, & Wings Drives: 2009 Challenger SRT8 & Old Mopars Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 93 View My Garage	It has been a problem at many companies, including the aircraft manufacturers that I have worked for. A friend that works at GM Arlington has told me worse stories about alcohol/drug problems out there. And it was only two years ago that Ford workers were caught taking 4 hour long drinking lunches on company pay: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=249190 That forum post has a video link that is dead, but gives the overall idea of the incident in 2008. The companies have to try there best to prevent such violations of policy, and the unions need to cooperate with the company when violators are caught... we will have to see what the UAW does. XS __________________

09-24-2010, 03:04 PM	#18
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	to the UAW __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

09-24-2010, 05:13 PM	#23
Morepwr woohoo Drives: Silverado, 70cutlass, 57chevy&more Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 558	Maybe those guys ARE the quality control! __________________ I am not useless, I can still be used as a bad example!

09-24-2010, 07:57 PM	#25
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Last I checked caffine doesn't do anything except make you a little jumpy. Working while drunk or high is slightly different. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

09-24-2010, 09:00 PM	#27
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	I know what I'm like when I'm drunk, I know what I'm like when I've had a large double-double. I've said and done dumb things while drunk/buzzed. Can't say that anything bad has ever happened to me during caffeine withdrawal. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

09-24-2010, 03:01 PM	#17
8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	Idiots. There are plenty of people that would give limbs to have their jobs and they're drinking and blazing on the job. They deserve to be unemployed indefinitely. I'm 20 years old and wouldn't do this idiotic shit. It's disgraceful. This is your workplace gentlemen, not your backyard bbq. If I were one of their kids, I would be absolutely ashamed.

09-24-2010, 03:23 PM	#21
Stew Drives: 92 Luminadead/01 Dakota/97 F150 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eastern, Ky Posts: 3,789	Ugh, kinda on the same note, Dallas has fired 13officers in less than a week, including 1 office who apparently fired his weapon in his patrol car while drink. What is the country coming too? http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...2.3335c2a.html

09-24-2010, 07:55 PM	#24
SleepWarz Banned Drives: 1991 New Yorker, 69 Tbird, ABM2SSRS Join Date: May 2009 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,248 View My Garage	It would be fun if they added coffee and caffine beverages to the substace abuse list. Stuff messes you up more than a joint will A whole lot of people would be fired....

09-24-2010, 08:18 PM	#26
SleepWarz Banned Drives: 1991 New Yorker, 69 Tbird, ABM2SSRS Join Date: May 2009 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,248 View My Garage	Not only the jumpyness, but the body's requirement for caffine and how tired people get afterwards.... Dangerous imho.

09-24-2010, 10:26 PM	#28
Zabo Gunning for Sixth Drives: '03 ZR2 Blazer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Woodhaven, Michigan Posts: 9,358 View My Garage	When I heard about this the first thing out of my mouth was: "Well how else are they supposed to comprehend putting the thing together?" Followed by a diatribe that ended with: "Holy f**k.. how did they get 375,000 mpg with just a hamster and a used coffee can..."

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