Theory as to why we have not see a CMG.

[Blue1969bird]

Originally Posted by camaropete

I was thinking that perhaps the captured test fleet vehicles were numbered 000001, 000002, etc.... It would be nice if HeatherR or Number3 could pipe in and tell us what VIN is on those cars they are driving.

I hope I don't get anyone in trouble for this but here is the vin from #3. I snapped this Tuesday morning. It is numbered 000003, so you may be on to something, as these are saleable but perhaps not regular production.

[CamaroScotty]

:fbodg oul2:: fbodgoul2::fbodgo ul2::f bodgoul2:

[Inspector 17]

Originally Posted by Blue1969bird

I hope I don't get anyone in trouble for this but here is the vin from #3. I snapped this Tuesday morning. It is numbered 000003, so you may be on to something, as these are saleable but perhaps not regular production.

Nicely done Bluebird!!!!! And I hope no one gets in trouble too.

[Inspector 17]

BTW, just doing a little VIN decoding to see what I could find out about this car. Here is what I have found so far. First of all, did I read that number correct? Is it 2G1FF1EV0A9000003?

2- Country - Canada
G - Manufacturer - General Motors
1 - Vehicle type or manufacturing division - Chevrolet
F - Identifies the restrain system - Chevy/GM specific code
F - Identifies the series - Camaro
1E - Identifies the body style - Chevy/GM specific code
V - Identifies the engine - Chevy/GM specific code
0 - Check digit to verify VIN accuracy
A - Identifies the model year - A = 2010
9 - Identifies the assembly plant for the vehicle - Oshawa #1
000003 - Identifies the sequence of the vehicle for production
as it rolled off the manufacturers assembly line. Starting with 100001.

EDIT: Just found some additional information and updated the above.

[Blue1969bird]

Originally Posted by camaropete

Nicely done Bluebird!!!!! And I hope no one gets in trouble too.

I don't see how anyone can get in trouble given that these cars are on the road and open for public viewing. If I seriously thought anyone could get in trouble I certainly would NOT have posted it.

It's not like it was taken within a factory or from 'dealer only' publications. I've waited over 20 years for GM to make a car that I felt was worth buying new and keeping for a long time and I would not do anything to jeapardize their hard work.

[Inspector 17]

Originally Posted by Blue1969bird

I don't see how anyone can get in trouble given that these cars are on the road and open for public viewing. If I seriously thought anyone could get in trouble I certainly would NOT have posted it.

It's not like it was taken within a factory or from 'dealer only' publications. I've waited over 20 years for GM to make a car that I felt was worth buying new and keeping for a long time and I would not do anything to jeapardize their hard work.

I know. I was just joking. Anyone could take pictures of the VINs of any of the show cars or ones cruising the streets (if they have one).

[CamaroScotty]

And that car is not in the GM VIS system.... Nor is #1



MAYBE........A CGM 2009 DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR :-)

[Badger]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

And that car is not in the GM VIS system.... Nor is #1



MAYBE........A CGM 2009 DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR :-)

I was thinking the same thing!

[OUR72GTO]

100001 vs 000003....... any one see the difference?

[CamaroScotty]

no such vins in the system

[Inspector 17]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

no such vins in the system

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

And that car is not in the GM VIS system.... Nor is #1



MAYBE........A CGM 2009 DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR :-)

Originally Posted by OUR72GTO

100001 vs 000003....... any one see the difference?

Could it be that these VINs are not registered as official production cars since they are captured vehicles? I would think that when these cars get sold, they would be more valuable than the 100001 model since they were really the first ones off the line (minus all the miles that Heather and Number3 put on them of course!). Any chance they change the VIN later? I would guess not since they are matched elsewhere on the car. Just throwing out some thoughts...

[zebra]

100001 is the one being bid on at the B-J auction, right?
if so, that car ain't built yet - the winner of that car gets to build & spec it themselves, so there's no way it even exists yet. that's why it wouldn't be in the system yet. as for 000003, i've got nothin

[Inspector 17]

Originally Posted by zebra

100001 is the one being bid on at the B-J auction, right?
if so, that car ain't built yet - the winner of that car gets to build & spec it themselves, so there's no way it even exists yet. that's why it wouldn't be in the system yet. as for 000003, i've got nothin

zebra, the 100001 and so forth cars won't come off the line until 2/16 (or whenever regular production starts. These pre-pro cars (CTF) have to have some identification (e.g. the VIN pictured below). The question is what happens later when those CTF cars are sold? Do the VINs stay the same? Do the VINs not get registered until they are sold? Those are the questions that probably only a GM person could answer.

[zebra]

i was just saying that in regard to CamaroScotty saying they weren't in the system.
100001 don't exist yet, but i didn't know why 000003 wansn't