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*GTAHVIT* · 01-04-2009, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hesh

From what I gathered looking around for myself on superchargers there are quite a few for the ls3 vette. Most are making around the 600hp marker to the tires with just the FI and no other mods. So with a cam for FI and a few other add ons you could see around the 700hp marker with no problems. Also GTA most of the kits designed for the ls3 are around 6psi so you were right on the money with your guess.

Wooo Hoooo!!! I got one right!!!!

Gary B · 01-04-2009, 03:12 PM

I'd look at the ZR1 as a base and adjust the power to weight ratio to match it. I do believe we'll see a ZR1 with good traction alone break into the 10's. I've seen Z06's with good traction get damn close!

*The_Blur* · 01-04-2009, 03:28 PM

I think the basic theme here is to leave your options open. I would encourage you to build your internals as a starting point. There's just no reason to worry about blowing up when you've built it right. Besides, when you take it in for service, they're going to look at your drag radials and know that something is happening with this car.

pharmd · 01-04-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary B

I'd look at the ZR1 as a base and adjust the power to weight ratio to match it. I do believe we'll see a ZR1 with good traction alone break into the 10's. I've seen Z06's with good traction get damn close!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...fast-list.html

10's have already been done on a bone stock C6 ZO6...both with stock tires and drag radials...

Here is my admission for the fast list:
Year : 2006 C6 Z06
Tires : Goodyear EMT Run Flats
Performance Mods : None
Category: Factory Stock

60' 1.772
330' 4.761
1/8 7.168
MPH 102.45
1000' 9.231
1/4 10.981
MPH 128.90

Mir Raceway Budds Creek Md
Nov 30 2007
39 Degrees

Here is my submission for fast list:

Year: 2006 C6Z
Tires: BFG DR 295x18
Performance mods: None
Category: Factory Stock Non Stock Tires

60' 1.701
330' 4.651
1/8 7.039
MPH 103.18
1000' 9.097
1/4 10.831
MPH 130.05

MIR Raceway Budds Creek Md
Nov 30 2007
Temp 39 degrees

Wm Holden · 01-04-2009, 04:35 PM

You need maggie...but you already know that...don't you?

mega_man_01103 · 01-04-2009, 06:06 PM

one thing i have noticed with all my friends is that once they get to to a certain hp and have driven that for a while they get bored and want more......

IMO, you should not be serious ebout FI unless you are willing to do internal. the difference can be substantial, i know i worked on my thunderbird supercoupe a couple of years ago.

and the rear.....that is going to be the wall that most will hit. sooner than later, the rear will have be beefed up.

Gary B · 01-04-2009, 06:46 PM

pharmd...that list is AMAZING! I knew they were fast, but WOW! Any of the boys thrash a ZR1 yet? How quick stone stock?

Wm Holden · 01-04-2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mega_man_01103

one thing i have noticed with all my friends is that once they get to to a certain hp and have driven that for a while they get bored and want more......

IMO, you should not be serious ebout FI unless you are willing to do internal. the difference can be substantial, i know i worked on my thunderbird supercoupe a couple of years ago.

and the rear.....that is going to be the wall that most will hit. sooner than later, the rear will have be beefed up.

GM is building this as a "musclecar" It's more stout then you think...
You're experience is with "Non muscle" into "muscle"...

This will be different.

*CamaroSpike23* · 01-04-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

GM is building this as a "musclecar" It's more stout then you think...
You're experience is with "Non muscle" into "muscle"...

This will be different.

I say a maggie and methanol injection....

truth411 · 01-07-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

GM is building this as a "musclecar" It's more stout then you think...
You're experience is with "Non muscle" into "muscle"...

This will be different.

I dissagree, it seems GM is Building this as a High performance , popularly priced modern 2+2 Sports car, rather than a resurrected muscle car. Case in point IRS, The V6 is actualy a car worth driveing, it can actually corner etc...

Xanthos · 01-07-2009, 01:52 AM

The point he (Wm Holden) was trying to make is that the car has much more capability than the other poster (mega_man) was giving it credit for.
- Xanthos

P.S. - If you dropped your car from a sufficient height, you would pass the 1/4 mile is barely more than 9 seconds...

TheClassicCarKid · 01-07-2009, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truth411

I dissagree, it seems GM is Building this as a High performance , popularly priced modern 2+2 Sports car, rather than a resurrected muscle car. Case in point IRS, The V6 is actualy a car worth driveing, it can actually corner etc...

Last time I checked a two door coupe with a big-a$$ V8 was a muscle car.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 01-07-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Streak

Love these kinda post!
Thanks for the post. Real informative, especially since I am forced induction kinda guy.

Good, because when I get my car I will be posting a similar question.

1967rsss · 01-08-2009, 08:27 PM

Ok let the flames begin.

First off, the ignition is DIS and there is no power to be gained, let alone 20 HP.

Second Magies are horrible. They heat soak and over heat the air going into the engine. Thats why everyone push's meth with them.

The best is turbos, second would be Pro Charger, for forced induction.

APS in Australia makes a really nice turbo kit, and I'm sure they will be offering one for the Camaro.

Clutch will be needed, and probably some rear end up grades to take the extra torque.

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01-04-2009, 06:06 PM	#20
mega_man_01103 Drives: 2011-12 Chevy Camaro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Bragg/Pope AFB Posts: 152	one thing i have noticed with all my friends is that once they get to to a certain hp and have driven that for a while they get bored and want more...... IMO, you should not be serious ebout FI unless you are willing to do internal. the difference can be substantial, i know i worked on my thunderbird supercoupe a couple of years ago. and the rear.....that is going to be the wall that most will hit. sooner than later, the rear will have be beefed up. __________________

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01-04-2009, 03:12 PM	#16
Gary B Drives: Subaru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ct. Posts: 572	I'd look at the ZR1 as a base and adjust the power to weight ratio to match it. I do believe we'll see a ZR1 with good traction alone break into the 10's. I've seen Z06's with good traction get damn close!

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Gary B Drives: Subaru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ct. Posts: 572	pharmd...that list is AMAZING! I knew they were fast, but WOW! Any of the boys thrash a ZR1 yet? How quick stone stock?

01-08-2009, 08:27 PM	#28
1967rsss Drives: 67, 68, 88, 98, 10, 12 ZL1 Camaros Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 103	Ok let the flames begin. First off, the ignition is DIS and there is no power to be gained, let alone 20 HP. Second Magies are horrible. They heat soak and over heat the air going into the engine. Thats why everyone push's meth with them. The best is turbos, second would be Pro Charger, for forced induction. APS in Australia makes a really nice turbo kit, and I'm sure they will be offering one for the Camaro. Clutch will be needed, and probably some rear end up grades to take the extra torque.