Nitto NT05 vs NT05R

[mikepage0007]

Originally Posted by caverman

I'm sure the 18's are cheaper. There is more of a selection for the 18. He said the tires were just under $500 and the wheels where $125+25 or so shipping. Mounted up and out the door for $875 total.

Waiting on my tax return to get here and then I'll find out if I can truely get them that cheap. I don't think the guy is BS'in me. I've talked with him a couple times over the last couple of days and each time I went in-depth about what I'm looking to do.

If I go down this route, which I think I am, then I'll post up if it's true or not. It's been low to mid-70s around here this week and I think the track opens up in March. I want to get out, get a little practice, and turn some numbers before it turns into an inferno in a few months......and keep my fingers crossed I don't break stuff with some sticky tires.

he may not bs you, but maybe does not realize that the 40mm offset and the 56 mm offset is a major issue..i have not seen any 18 inch 40mm offset on any rim other than the oem c6 wheel..heres a brand new c6 zo6 18 wheel for 55.00...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-Co...Q5fAccessories problem is 65mm offset

[danhr]

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

you have it backwards, the 555 is not a very good track tire, on the other hand the nt05 is a really good track tire, when heated up... http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...est/index.html...you are better off buying a set of 18,s with nto5 or mt,s for the track, if you don,t run that often you will get years out of them...you will spend a fortune on 20inch drs, and not get very good life out of them just to use seldom at track and will not hook above 400rwhp..imo..long run, it will be less costley for 300.00 vette rims with 600 dr,s ..900 .00 investment will last years and you will have great traction when you really want it...and keep a good all weather handling tire..for everyday driving..good luck

No, SRT10Killer has it correct. The article you are qouting is about the NT05R, not the NT05.

[mikepage0007]

my bad, thought he was comparing the nt05 to the 555series in general..the nt05r ISthe best drag radial nitto makes , but for street use on a dd .would not be a good idea..that should keep it simple enough..also no one i know of that is 450 rwhp has any luck with the 555r at the track...possiblke that they are not heating them up enough..from everything i read , need minimum 5 seconds of burnout...that require4s line lock...most camaro,s don,t have..getting ready to order mine tonight...waste of money for drs, if you can,t heat them up..imo

[caverman]

Do the NT05R need to be heated up as well? I'm sure they do a little but I don't have a line lock. Wasn't really planning on getting one either. Also, what do you think a resonable RPM would be to launch with the NT05R?

[SRT10KLLR]

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

my bad, thought he was comparing the nt05 to the 555series in general..the nt05r ISthe best drag radial nitto makes , but for street use on a dd .would not be a good idea..that should keep it simple enough..also no one i know of that is 450 rwhp has any luck with the 555r at the track...possiblke that they are not heating them up enough..from everything i read , need minimum 5 seconds of burnout...that require4s line lock...most camaro,s don,t have..getting ready to order mine tonight...waste of money for drs, if you can,t heat them up..imo

People under estimate the 555R. It is a very good tire once you heat it up and lower the tire pressure. I have had very good luck with it. My cousin was running them on his Maggy with 14 lbs of boost and a 100 shot to a 10.5 in the 1/4.

Originally Posted by caverman

Do the NT05R need to be heated up as well? I'm sure they do a little but I don't have a line lock. Wasn't really planning on getting one either. Also, what do you think a resonable RPM would be to launch with the NT05R?

Yes, all DR's need to be heated up including the NT05R.

You don't need a line lock although it makes things easier and lets your rear brakes last longer. You need to "two foot" or "heel toe" it whatever you call it. You put your right foot on the gas pedal and your heel on the brake pedal with your toes on the clutch. I do it in 2nd hear so I can get the speed up a bit. Give it some gas with the right foot while releasing the clutch with the toes of your foot while continuing to hold the brake. Once you feel you have heated the tires up enough you can take your foot off the brake pedal and move forward.

It takes a little bit of work but once you get used to it it will by easy.

[danhr]

Originally Posted by SRT10KLLR

People under estimate the 555R. It is a very good tire once you heat it up and lower the tire pressure. I have had very good luck with it. My cousin was running them on his Maggy with 14 lbs of boost and a 100 shot to a 10.5 in the 1/4.

Yes, all DR's need to be heated up including the NT05R.

You don't need a line lock although it makes things easier and lets your rear brakes last longer. You need to "two foot" or "heel toe" it whatever you call it. You put your right foot on the gas pedal and your heel on the brake pedal with your toes on the clutch. I do it in 2nd hear so I can get the speed up a bit. Give it some gas with the right foot while releasing the clutch with the toes of your foot while continuing to hold the brake. Once you feel you have heated the tires up enough you can take your foot off the brake pedal and move forward.

It takes a little bit of work but once you get used to it it will by easy.

Whenever teaching some of my non-experienced friends on how to do a burnout.... I found instead of the heel-toe method (which usually resulted in more burned clutches than burned tires. lol), I eventually just had them rev up the motor, let out the clutch, and as fast as possible get on the brake with your left foot. A little practice will give them how hard to push down on the brake/gas pedal.

Just one of those "more than one way to skin a cat" kind of thing

[newmoon]

What pressure are you guys running the 555Rs at for the track?

[mikepage0007]

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...est/index.html did anyone actually read this,, professional testing with the nitto dr...only way it would hook was with 5-10 second cooking of tire @ 16lbs of air...that should give you a little insight on nitto dr and mt dr...if they could not hook up the nitto dr nto5 untill they did a serious burnout, imagine how hard it will be to get a 555r to hook...just saying.....you are not doing this while holding brakes..also should be a 2nd gear burnout....spend 150.00 and get a line lock...save your clutch..good luck...

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by newmoon

What pressure are you guys running the 555Rs at for the track?

Go with the highest pressure that will hook. I run them at about 25 psi, but I'm not making all that much RWHP. If your making more RWHP, you'd want to drop them down a bit more (16-20 psi) range. I've heard guys going lower than that, but most of the time its not needed. If you drop down too low, you'll start to lose some time on the big end of the track.

Nuptualnemesis pulled 1.61 sec 60' in his cammed SS running the NT555Rs, so they can get the job done.

[mikepage0007]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Go with the highest pressure that will hook. I run them at about 25 psi, but I'm not making all that much RWHP. If your making more RWHP, you'd want to drop them down a bit more (16-20 psi) range. I've heard guys going lower than that, but most of the time its not needed. If you drop down too low, you'll start to lose some time on the big end of the track.

Nuptualnemesis pulled 1.61 sec 60' in his cammed SS running the NT555Rs, so they can get the job done.

nice times, but 60ft times are nice but 400rwhp and 800 rwhp, are entirely diff beasts...i could not pull 1.6 without a lotta luck and slicks on 654rwhp..so each require diff tire setups ...what kind of power is the cammed na ss and is it auto...also makes a lot of diff..you could put nails in the 555rs and when i smoke them up and get them hot, i can promise you they will not bite in 1st or 2nd gear..i know...at least in my car...so you really gotta plan ahead..what hp will you be happy with and buy tires accordingly..4-5 months ago we got approx40 camaro,s togethjer up at sgmp and there were only 4 superchargers..2 with 555r, 2 with perelli,s the un sc cars were actually beating every sc out there, because we did not hook...i actually had the fastest time and had to run with all traction control on running 22,s and taking off @ 2800-3000 rpm and short shifting instead of running to 6k...i only ran a 12.1 @ 116 mph..with a 1.8 60ft..the other 2 sc nitto,s drs could not break 12.6 and were all over the track with everything turned off..just saying...i am going pony wars 4/2, but will have some 18in with mt et,s and extra axles.also running 50/50 meth, hitting approx 700 rwhp.. hope to see some of you people up in sgmp...its 5 hrs from s florida..

[SRT10KLLR]

Originally Posted by newmoon

What pressure are you guys running the 555Rs at for the track?

Somewhere between 15-20 psi depending on track temperature/condition/prep. Start at the highest and work your way down until you no longer spin them. If you run them to low you will feel the car get a little squirrelly on the top end.

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Go with the highest pressure that will hook. I run them at about 25 psi, but I'm not making all that much RWHP. If your making more RWHP, you'd want to drop them down a bit more (16-20 psi) range. I've heard guys going lower than that, but most of the time its not needed. If you drop down too low, you'll start to lose some time on the big end of the track.

Nuptualnemesis pulled 1.61 sec 60' in his cammed SS running the NT555Rs, so they can get the job done.

Never had problems running the 555R's. My cousin was running mid 10's using the 555R's on the stock wheels. I ran a 10.9 with them also and back to back 11.3's at a bracket race event.

"As others have mentioned, you have to get a Nitto pretty hot, but they work very well.

I've been 9's on a 20" Nitto 555R and 10.4 @ 134 mph with a 1.55 60' in Midgard's 650 RWHP auto Camaro on a 20" NT05R. They work excellent on the street as well if they are warm."

Rick - Livernois

[Bossmanz07]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

A year and a half ago I got a set of the 18" z06 wheels, w/ 40 mm offset and 18" M & H racemaster drag radials for about $1200. Then I had to have them mounted and balanced. That didn't cost me anything but if if did I would have to add another $50 or so. Thats 4 bills more than your price. I hope you can get the setup for so cheap. That would be awesome!!

Thats about right on price and the 555 nitto are not good in rain also they will spin u around they dont have the new in 20,s yet nt05 and that is the right offset 40mm the 555 at track i only get 5 good passes then they r slick no traction on 20,s in 305 they are wider 11inch look better on factory wheels.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by Bossmanz07

Thats about right on price and the 555 nitto are not good in rain also they will spin u around they dont have the new in 20,s yet nt05 and that is the right offset 40mm the 555 at track i only get 5 good passes then they r slick no traction on 20,s in 305 they are wider 11inch look better on factory wheels.

What? Your response 1. Makes no sense and 2. Has nothing to do with the information that I posted.

[Bossmanz07]

The price was right never quote never heard of that cheap i paid about that a month ago and you gave the right off set. So 1. i was saying u gave some good imformation. 2. my car wholes it own its Drag racing .