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Old 03-04-2009, 04:59 PM   #15
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cool. those mustang sure know how to burn the rubbers.
sadly i dont see the camaro doing this for awhile.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:26 PM   #16
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...I think it's going to be up to GM to make it a car as popular as Mustang, because if it were up to us, it would've never been cancelled.
Mustangs are not popular because Ford made/makes them popular. It was/is the consumer that made the Mustang the automotive icon it is today.

If it were just a matter of producing a better car, I could probably name you a dozen vehicles in the history of the automobile that should have sold like hotcakes but, for whatever reason, never caught on with the buying public and were doomed to the dust bin of automotive history as an also-ran.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:07 PM   #17
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Mustangs are not popular because Ford made/makes them popular. It was/is the consumer that made the Mustang the automotive icon it is today.

If it were just a matter of producing a better car, I could probably name you a dozen vehicles in the history of the automobile that should have sold like hotcakes but, for whatever reason, never caught on with the buying public and were doomed to the dust bin of automotive history as an also-ran.
I just think the exposure and appeal of the car overall did it. Look at all the options a Mustang buyer, let alone a regular person, has. There's litterally a Mustang for every budget/power level/handling level. I shouldn't imply a customer/fan is not what makes a car popular, I should've put that differently, but Ford did it's job and continues to. I'm thinking about a 4th Gen. specifically, in this case (I'm sorry - I continue to love this car, but with the 5th. Gen., and so many other new cars out there, it's pretty dated now). There were so many concessions for performance made (IMVHO) instead of ergonomics. That was fine with me and many others, but that windshield, hump in the floor, long-low nose, long doors, etc., were just more difficult to live with for more people (IMO). Mustang didn't seem to have as many of these nuances that I think many potential buyers would've had a problem with. I think I remember reading that the 4th. Gen. was more made for the enthusiast, not so much for everybody, and that's probably what was the last nail in the coffin. It may not have performed as well, on the whole, but it fit the bill in a lot more places that appealed to more buyers. I don't know if that justifies my reasoning to others, but that's how it works out in my head.

You're right not with there being better cars out there that didn't sell well though. I just think Ford's done it the best with Mustang, as far as striking the best balance of value/performance/quality/etc. I hope GM can change things with Camaro though

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Old 03-04-2009, 06:53 PM   #18
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I don't care what you GM boys say, Ford is going to give everybody a run for their money
Perhaps you will give us a run for our money,.....but you won't look nearly as good doing it
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:07 PM   #19
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Perhaps you will give us a run for our money,.....but you won't look nearly as good doing it

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Old 03-04-2009, 07:14 PM   #20
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My last 4 cars have been Mustangs. The 4.6 3-valve 300 HP motor is very good for everyday street use. For 2010 the GT motor is 315 HP - big deal. My 2002 Z06 and my last 2 Mustangs have shown me that there is a BIG difference between 300 HP and 400 HP on the street. Somewhere around 400 HP traction becomes the biggest issue. And, drag radials are not practical for everyday use. For "Fun-To-Drive", I want 400 HP not 300 HP. That means, for me, a Mustang GT needs a supercharger to be competitive. I'm going Camaro for 2010.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:30 PM   #21
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yea the rustang is something I just wont say what something it is.....
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:00 PM   #22
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Well I was on ebay looking at them today and I don't think I could do a stock 4.6, but I do like the Saleen and the Cobra. As long as they have 400hp or better I could be swayed with the right price. It seems the Camaro is going to provide the best value at this point though.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:44 PM   #23
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Old 03-06-2009, 12:31 AM   #24
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Mustangs are not popular because Ford made/makes them popular. It was/is the consumer that made the Mustang the automotive icon it is today.

If it were just a matter of producing a better car, I could probably name you a dozen vehicles in the history of the automobile that should have sold like hotcakes but, for whatever reason, never caught on with the buying public and were doomed to the dust bin of automotive history as an also-ran.
2004-2006 GTO comes to mind . . .
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Old 03-06-2009, 12:37 AM   #25
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cool video MM I always like to see muscle cars doing a powerslide. The fact that its a world record is great. A head to head to head between the Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro would be cool to see. Last one to have its tires explode wins.
Don't you mean the 1st one to have his tires explode wins?

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Old 03-06-2009, 01:15 AM   #27
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Meh. 2010's alright. I say it's a step back in styling. Of course, with the rumored 302 making a comeback I may be able to overlook it...
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Old 03-06-2009, 01:30 AM   #28
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The mustang will outsell the Camaro the first year simply because it has a tried and true following and is more affordable than the Camaro. Another big reason is that for the first 6 months to a year, the GM dealers will be marking up the price in the $5,000 over MSRP range and in Miami in the $10,000 over MSRP range until things die down.. The Mustang got a facelift that makes it more aggressive looking in 2010 so it looks more like the GT500's front fascia. This was a great move by Ford since now the car looks more like KITT on their new infomercial show... I would be happy with a 2010 Mustang as it is a very nice looking car interior and exterior..
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