Radar detection systems?

[Nexus6]

Originally Posted by SummoneR

I have a Beltronics RX65 Professional series. when I bought it about a year and a half ago it was considered to be the best on the market. Prior to that I had a Beltronics Vector 990, it too was considered to be the best by every testing lab/company out there. I paid over $300 for both, best $600 I ever spent, it pays for itself after the ticket you avoid. I have paid for mine many times over... MANY! This is an area where you get what you pay for, seriously. Beltronics is considered to be the best... sure there are others but Beltronics has the highest rating across the board I have seen. I have not looked in the last year or so, it may have changed... but I doubt it. The key is to always have it on, and in a good location (even though mine still works if its hiding in the glove box LOL). You still have to keep an eye out for cycle cops who don't run radar while riding usually, and for the ones who sneak up behind you with their radar off and "pop" it, the RX65 has "POP" detection, so if your out in the open your nailed... if your in a bunch of traffic, you can slide over and down out of the way if your good, and not obvious about it.

Too don't believe everything a cop tells you about Radar... unless that cop was a radar technician for 40 years like my grandfather was. He use to be a cycle cop for the Bakersfield PD for a few years, but before and then later after that he was a radar technician for the government, My father was too, and still is to some degree he is now the manager for the guys who fix the radars... anyway point being they both have said CHP radar is not that accurate, it can't pinpoint you out of a crowd like they want you to believe, and it can't accurately judge speed if its bouncing around a corner of a mountain etc... like one tried to tell me LMAO! He about $hit brick when I told him he was FOS and explained to him why... anyway check out the Beltronics line, and again, you may spend a chunk of money for a decent one, but it's worth it!!

EDIT: Check this out, find an old Radar detector and get an $80 rebate from Beltronics, looks like the new big dog is the GX65...
http://www.beltronics.com/trade-in-program.php

i couldnt agree more . I love my beltronics RX-65 red .everytime i drive to houston from dallas it saves me about 3 times (twice inbetween Dallas and Ennis alone).


When i finally get my SS i think i will be installing a RX75 plus.Remote mount with radar detection and laser jamming

https://www.beltronics.com/store/rx75-plus.html

Here are some places to read up on radar detectors.He's a radar gun trainer for cops,and was a traffic cop himself for many years.he also tests radar detectors

http://www.radarroy.com/category/laser-jammers/
http://www.radarroysbuyersguide.com/
http://www.radarbusters.com/productr...onsarticle.cfm


AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STAY AWAY FROM ROCKY MOUNTAIN RADAR!!!!

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Camarino

lol not in NY both scanners and jammers are legal

http://www.1stradardetectors.com/rad...ector-laws.php
New York
Radar Detectors in New York: Radar detectors are [COLOR="SeaGreen"]legal[/COLOR] to use in New York, however they may not be used in commercial vehicles.

Laser Jammers in New York: Laser jammers are legal to use in New York.



http://www.radarbusters.com/newyorkr...awsarticle.cfm

Radar laser detectors and laser jammers are legal to own and operate in passenger vehicles in the state of New York.


http://www.insurance.com/article.asp...ties/artid/364

Unfortunately you are not entirely correct - yes, LASER jammers are legal - like I said in my post they are legal everywhere (untill congress comes up with a way to regulate the sun and the wave properties of luminence).

It's RADAR jammers that are illegal everywhere, and if anyone tells you otherwise, they're wrong. RADAR works on radio frequency, and at least as the FCC is concerned messing with police radar is the same as jamming a TV or radio station signal - big, big no-no.

Your standard, run of the mill radar and laser DETECTORS are legal everywhere but Virginia and Washington DC.

[Camarino]

i'm new to this but i've been hearing alot about POP detection i think i got the just of it but can someone just clear it up for me and what you should do if u get popped

btw doe sth radar make different sound when u get popped ?

[fastball]

Pop is when the police turn their radar on and off. With most older radar (X, K bands), the police just sit with the radar on constantly all the time. That sends out the radio frequencies which bounce off your car at different frequencies in relationship with how fast you go (that's how a radar calculates speed). A decent radar detector can pick these up from upwards of 2 miles away (I have an Escort and it has extremely long range on lower band radar). These radio frequencies bounce off anything metal, so the more trafic the sooner you will be picking them up as you approach.

With Ka band, it's a much higher frequency, so the radar doesn't need to be on all the time. The police can basically treat it like laser and pull the trigger on any time. Only difference between that an laser is you can aim laser like a sharp shooter with a rifle and pick off one single target in the pack of doezens. With Ka, the police would still have to determine which car is going the speed that is showing on the display.

So, that is "poping". A good detector might give you some time if a cop is poping and there's alot of trafic, but if not, it's about as good as laser, and when you get hit with a Ka pop or laser, you might as well pull over.

[Camarino]

Originally Posted by fastball

Pop is when the police turn their radar on and off. With most older radar (X, K bands), the police just sit with the radar on constantly all the time. That sends out the radio frequencies which bounce off your car at different frequencies in relationship with how fast you go (that's how a radar calculates speed). A decent radar detector can pick these up from upwards of 2 miles away (I have an Escort and it has extremely long range on lower band radar). These radio frequencies bounce off anything metal, so the more trafic the sooner you will be picking them up as you approach.

With Ka band, it's a much higher frequency, so the radar doesn't need to be on all the time. The police can basically treat it like laser and pull the trigger on any time. Only difference between that an laser is you can aim laser like a sharp shooter with a rifle and pick off one single target in the pack of doezens. With Ka, the police would still have to determine which car is going the speed that is showing on the display.

So, that is "poping". A good detector might give you some time if a cop is poping and there's alot of trafic, but if not, it's about as good as laser, and when you get hit with a Ka pop or laser, you might as well pull over.

ahhhhh thnx

[Nexus6]

MPH Industries first introduced POP radar technology (also known as the Super Bee) in its radar guns in 1999 as a way to defeat radar detectors. Today MPH's radar guns while operating in POP mode, can defeat over 85% of the radar detectors in use today.

POP mode works by sending out a quick burst of pulse radar at approximately 67 milliseconds. MPH Industries admits that while in this mode, that the displayed speed of a vehicle may not be accurate. They recommend that the officer only use this mode to obtain an estimate of speed from the target vehicle, establish a vehicle tracking history, and then switch to normal mode to obtain the exact speed.

Therefore POP mode is seldom, if ever used by law enforcement and should not be a major concern as an "important feature" in considering your radar detector.

In fact, most radar detectors that have the POP mode have it disabled by default, as activating POP on detectors, opens it up to receive a false alerts.

[Liberty1]

Originally Posted by fastball

Pop is when the police turn their radar on and off. With most older radar (X, K bands), the police just sit with the radar on constantly all the time. That sends out the radio frequencies which bounce off your car at different frequencies in relationship with how fast you go (that's how a radar calculates speed). A decent radar detector can pick these up from upwards of 2 miles away (I have an Escort and it has extremely long range on lower band radar). These radio frequencies bounce off anything metal, so the more trafic the sooner you will be picking them up as you approach.

With Ka band, it's a much higher frequency, so the radar doesn't need to be on all the time. The police can basically treat it like laser and pull the trigger on any time. Only difference between that an laser is you can aim laser like a sharp shooter with a rifle and pick off one single target in the pack of doezens. With Ka, the police would still have to determine which car is going the speed that is showing on the display.

So, that is "poping". A good detector might give you some time if a cop is poping and there's alot of trafic, but if not, it's about as good as laser, and when you get hit with a Ka pop or laser, you might as well pull over.

...So basically, with the new speed detection systems cops use, the only time your radar detector is going to be useful is in traffic, where your detector can pick up the cops using it on other cars. Otherwise, if you're driving in the middle of the night and there are no cars on the road; the cops will simply wait to see your car first, then turn on their radar, and detect you at the same time your radar detector goes off, which is too late. At that point; your radar detector becomes and a 'time to pull over' detector.

[Liberty1]

Originally Posted by Nexus6

MPH Industries first introduced POP radar technology (also known as the Super Bee) in its radar guns in 1999 as a way to defeat radar detectors. Today MPH's radar guns while operating in POP mode, can defeat over 85% of the radar detectors in use today.

POP mode works by sending out a quick burst of pulse radar at approximately 67 milliseconds. MPH Industries admits that while in this mode, that the displayed speed of a vehicle may not be accurate. They recommend that the officer only use this mode to obtain an estimate of speed from the target vehicle, establish a vehicle tracking history, and then switch to normal mode to obtain the exact speed.

Therefore POP mode is seldom, if ever used by law enforcement and should not be a major concern as an "important feature" in considering your radar detector.

In fact, most radar detectors that have the POP mode have it disabled by default, as activating POP on detectors, opens it up to receive a false alerts.

Does this apply to Laser, which is pretty much instant as well?

[Nexus6]

Originally Posted by Liberty1

...So basically, with the new speed detection systems cops use, the only time your radar detector is going to be useful is in traffic, where your detector can pick up the cops using it on other cars. Otherwise, if you're driving in the middle of the night and there are no cars on the road; the cops will simply wait to see your car first, then turn on their radar, and detect you at the same time your radar detector goes off, which is too late. At that point; your radar detector becomes and a 'time to pull over' detector.

Radar detectors are to be used in conjunction with Common sense,Awareness of your surroundings,and quick reflexes.

[Camarino]

Originally Posted by Nexus6

Radar detectors are to be used in conjunction with Common sense,Awareness of your surroundings,and quick reflexes.

thats another thing i never got, wheni was younger i used to think radar detectors were to warn u there was a cop around and slow down but now i'm hearing to move into more traffic two lanes over, then slow down ........

[fastball]

After we get our Camaro SSs, I don't think we need to worry about radar detectors because I just know all the fine people of Camaro5.com will NEVER drive above posted speed limits

[WootyMcBooty]

To be honest, just don't go above 79 on the freeway and if you are going to hoon around late at night, do a dry run to check if there are any snakes in the grass.

I always like to know where a cop is regardless of what I'm doing so a radar detector is a must for me.

[Camarino]

Originally Posted by WootyMcBooty

To be honest, just don't go above 79 on the freeway and if you are going to hoon around late at night, do a dry run to check if there are any snakes in the grass.

I always like to know where a cop is regardless of what I'm doing so a radar detector is a must for me.

lol i wish i could go 79 on a freeway. NY= expressways & thruways =55-60

[fastball]

Originally Posted by WootyMcBooty

if you are going to hoon around late at night, do a dry run to check if there are any snakes in the grass.

What's that? Whoa, mercy..... Bandit this place is crawlin with bears, where the hell are you at????