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Rodrunner · 03-19-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

I'm not Scott

...but I remember reading that back then, the Mustang was out selling the Camaro & Firebird combined 2-1 :(

I didn't know that. Guess it pretty well answers my question. Thanks, 3 SS's!

Camarino · 03-19-2009, 07:44 PM

I wasn't sure i felt like as long as they were making mustangs the Camaro had to come back. In '05 when the Mustang got revamped I KNEW the Camaro hadda be close and Lo and behold 2006 brought us the Concept

jeffny09 · 03-19-2009, 07:52 PM

i didnt beleave it i heard around the time they stoppped that they were gonna come back in 06 and and told my self then i was gonna get camaro when it comes out again!
i knew it had faith the whole time0just didnt expect it to look this good

PQ · 03-19-2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodfather

oh ye of little faith!!!

Nice stick and move.

JMAN311 · 03-19-2009, 07:56 PM

I'm surprised how many people thought it would be dead forever. I knew it would make it back someday.....and that day is now

Rodrunner · 03-19-2009, 08:00 PM

So what, GM decided they needed to redesign it properly, and one model year wasn't enough, so they "took a break" of a couple years and did it right?

GrnMchin · 03-19-2009, 08:08 PM

No, due to the popularity of the car I thought that it would make a come back at some point.

Fireball · 03-19-2009, 08:11 PM

I was pretty certain the Camaro was dead in 2002. Here's my take on its revival:

In 2001 America's business center was attacked & destroyed. Financial markets & economy suffered as a result. Bush cut capital gains tax and had Greenspan lower interest rates for banks borrowing money from the Federal Reserve Bank. This enabled the US economy to recover from 9/11 and caused a significant upsurge in capital markets, the stock market, corporate balance sheets and consumer confidence.

Ford then came out with the retro Mustang in late 2004 and, with a booming economy, consumers snapped up the new retro Mustang at a fast clip (150,000 units/year) despite dealer markups. GM couldn't ignore this market segment (pony/muscle car) and scrambled to create a retro Mustang fighter.

In 2006 GM introduced the Camaro Concept, while the economy was still in the boom phase of the boom/bust cycle (caused by artificial money & credit expansion). It took GM 3 years to bring their concept to the marketplace. By the time they did, the bust cycle kicked-in, along with anti-business Democrats seizing power in Washington DC.

The Camaro could never be conceived and developed in today's political and economic climate. But fortunately for us, it was conceived and developed in more favorable times. This indeed might be the last and best Camaro ever built, unless Americans elect political leaders who are pro-business, pro-capitalist and pro-individualist. The resulting economic surge caused by a pro-business regime in Washington DC could result in even better Camaros such as a 2011 Camaro Z/28 with 552 horsepower or a 2012 Camaro ZL1 with 638 horsepower.

JMAN311 · 03-19-2009, 08:15 PM

It really was depressing to read in the mags around that timeframe that the mustang was doubling up on the Camaro and Firebird. I mean they both spanked the Mustangs all the time on performance tests. I think the mustang V6's just sold way better than the Camaro V6's. Mustang V6's were more the norm, cause most everyone that wanted a Camaro got a Z-28 or SS cause the owners were more performance oriented.

Justin · 03-19-2009, 08:50 PM

To be honest, I didn't want it to come back. I figured if it did it'd be some FWD knock off that didn't deserve the name plate.

Yeah, I was wrong, and I'm fine with that, because the fifth gen is probably my favorite Camaro of all time.

tjbusa · 03-19-2009, 09:01 PM

I knew it would come back, I just never guessed it would take so long to do it. I thought in 2005 when the revamped retro mustang came out, a camaro would be quick to follow. Well its back....and its badder than ever.

kunkelz28 · 03-19-2009, 09:54 PM

I was in denial I never believed it went away, only into hiding for few years

*Milk 1027* · 03-19-2009, 10:19 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

The Camaro was in hibernation.
Like a large mammal waiting to be awaken from it's deep sleep. Only to come back stronger and hungrier for some pony meat.

TonytheTiger · 03-20-2009, 05:17 AM

Lets look at the good side, gm had 6 years off, and the mustang took over the sales, but 6 years later GM made a monster of a car, could that of happened in 2003? could gm have made a car that could of taken care of the mustang a car which had the biggest sales of the year and brought the look of its 1st generation, it was 1st for 3 years, but now the camaro has turned this around.

I wish the 2009 camaro could embarrass the mustang like it did to use with sales back in 2002, mostly likely it won't happen because its eye catching with most of its models.

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03-19-2009, 07:44 PM	#16
Camarino DrIvE iT LiKe Ya STOLE It Drives: 2005 Mustang, '68 Camaro Z28 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 1,007	I wasn't sure i felt like as long as they were making mustangs the Camaro had to come back. In '05 when the Mustang got revamped I KNEW the Camaro hadda be close and Lo and behold 2006 brought us the Concept __________________ Lol SILLY RICER WINGS ARE FOR PLANES! :flag1: :flag2: :flag1: :flag2:

03-19-2009, 07:52 PM	#17
jeffny09 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new york Posts: 5,618	i didnt beleave it i heard around the time they stoppped that they were gonna come back in 06 and and told my self then i was gonna get camaro when it comes out again! i knew it had faith the whole time0just didnt expect it to look this good __________________ top 10 reason why real men drive stick. 10. A manual transmission is the ultimate in control 9. You can use automotive jargon and not sound like a total tool 8. You can't spell "manual" without "man" 7. Manual transmissions prove you can do more than one thing at a time 6. You can't drift in an auto 5. You can't pull fancy moves in an automatic 4. You get better fuel economy with a stick 3. You’ll never look like a chump if you can drive stick 2. Manual transmission cars are faster 1. Women like a guy who is good with his hands.

03-19-2009, 07:56 PM	#19
JMAN311 Drives: 2013 F-150 Limited Join Date: May 2008 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 2,191	I'm surprised how many people thought it would be dead forever. I knew it would make it back someday.....and that day is now __________________ There just might be a 2016 Camaro or Corvette in my future... _____________________________________________ Previous Chevy's 2013 Camaro ZL1 A6\|SIM 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS\|M6\|CGM Exterior\|Gray Int 2000 Camaro SS\|M6\|SLP headers\|SLP center mounted quad exhaust\|Magnaflow muffler\|Hypertech programmed 2001 Corvette\|M6\|LG Motorsports Headers\|Corsa Touring Cat-back\|Magnaflow X Pipe\|Hurst short-throw\|Dyno tuned

03-19-2009, 08:00 PM	#20
Rodrunner Senior Member Drives: 2010 SS/RS, '06 350Z Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: So. Maryland Posts: 2,326	So what, GM decided they needed to redesign it properly, and one model year wasn't enough, so they "took a break" of a couple years and did it right? __________________ 2SS/RS - Black/Black - CGM Rally Stripes - Auto - VIN 10171

03-19-2009, 08:08 PM	#21
GrnMchin Not easy being Green Drives: 67 Nova SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,256	No, due to the popularity of the car I thought that it would make a come back at some point.

03-19-2009, 08:11 PM	#22
Fireball Drives: Turbocharged Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 99	I was pretty certain the Camaro was dead in 2002. Here's my take on its revival: In 2001 America's business center was attacked & destroyed. Financial markets & economy suffered as a result. Bush cut capital gains tax and had Greenspan lower interest rates for banks borrowing money from the Federal Reserve Bank. This enabled the US economy to recover from 9/11 and caused a significant upsurge in capital markets, the stock market, corporate balance sheets and consumer confidence. Ford then came out with the retro Mustang in late 2004 and, with a booming economy, consumers snapped up the new retro Mustang at a fast clip (150,000 units/year) despite dealer markups. GM couldn't ignore this market segment (pony/muscle car) and scrambled to create a retro Mustang fighter. In 2006 GM introduced the Camaro Concept, while the economy was still in the boom phase of the boom/bust cycle (caused by artificial money & credit expansion). It took GM 3 years to bring their concept to the marketplace. By the time they did, the bust cycle kicked-in, along with anti-business Democrats seizing power in Washington DC. The Camaro could never be conceived and developed in today's political and economic climate. But fortunately for us, it was conceived and developed in more favorable times. This indeed might be the last and best Camaro ever built, unless Americans elect political leaders who are pro-business, pro-capitalist and pro-individualist. The resulting economic surge caused by a pro-business regime in Washington DC could result in even better Camaros such as a 2011 Camaro Z/28 with 552 horsepower or a 2012 Camaro ZL1 with 638 horsepower.

03-19-2009, 08:15 PM	#23
JMAN311 Drives: 2013 F-150 Limited Join Date: May 2008 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 2,191	It really was depressing to read in the mags around that timeframe that the mustang was doubling up on the Camaro and Firebird. I mean they both spanked the Mustangs all the time on performance tests. I think the mustang V6's just sold way better than the Camaro V6's. Mustang V6's were more the norm, cause most everyone that wanted a Camaro got a Z-28 or SS cause the owners were more performance oriented. __________________ There just might be a 2016 Camaro or Corvette in my future... _____________________________________________ Previous Chevy's 2013 Camaro ZL1 A6\|SIM 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS\|M6\|CGM Exterior\|Gray Int 2000 Camaro SS\|M6\|SLP headers\|SLP center mounted quad exhaust\|Magnaflow muffler\|Hypertech programmed 2001 Corvette\|M6\|LG Motorsports Headers\|Corsa Touring Cat-back\|Magnaflow X Pipe\|Hurst short-throw\|Dyno tuned

03-19-2009, 08:50 PM	#24
Justin Camaro5's Cell Phone Geek Drives: '02 V6 Camaro. 5 speed manual. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 406	To be honest, I didn't want it to come back. I figured if it did it'd be some FWD knock off that didn't deserve the name plate. Yeah, I was wrong, and I'm fine with that, because the fifth gen is probably my favorite Camaro of all time. __________________ 2SS RJT with black rally stripes, RS package, sunroof, painted engine block cover. It's either that or a damned similar 'vert in a few years.

03-19-2009, 09:01 PM	#25
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,129	I knew it would come back, I just never guessed it would take so long to do it. I thought in 2005 when the revamped retro mustang came out, a camaro would be quick to follow. Well its back....and its badder than ever.

03-19-2009, 09:54 PM	#26
kunkelz28 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St Cloud Minnesota Posts: 320	I was in denial I never believed it went away, only into hiding for few years

03-19-2009, 10:19 PM	#27
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Camaro was in hibernation. Like a large mammal waiting to be awaken from it's deep sleep. Only to come back stronger and hungrier for some pony meat. __________________

03-20-2009, 05:17 AM	#28
TonytheTiger Drives: 1999 camaro rs Join Date: May 2008 Location: phoenix, arizona Posts: 1,160	Lets look at the good side, gm had 6 years off, and the mustang took over the sales, but 6 years later GM made a monster of a car, could that of happened in 2003? could gm have made a car that could of taken care of the mustang a car which had the biggest sales of the year and brought the look of its 1st generation, it was 1st for 3 years, but now the camaro has turned this around. I wish the 2009 camaro could embarrass the mustang like it did to use with sales back in 2002, mostly likely it won't happen because its eye catching with most of its models. __________________

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