COPOs

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by Nightfall

Spotted: HTR-SS 454 LSX Camaro by DeNooyer-Redline
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A Camaro5 member spotted this DeNooyer-Redline HTR-SS 454 LSX Camaro yesterday. For those who aren’t familiar with the HTR-SS454, it’s a monster of a Camaro, powered by the GMPP LSX 454 crate engine long block. The power output for the HTR-SS454 is 575 BHP and for the HTR-SS454R is 635 BHP.
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The HTR-SS454 Package Includes:
• GMPP LSX 454 crate engine from General Motors Performance Parts Division
• FAST 102mm High Flow Intake Manifold
• 1 7/8” LT Headers with high flow cats and 3? mid section
• ATI/Redline Crank Balancer
• Powder Coated Valve Covers with Coil Relocation
• MBRP Stainless Steel Mufflers
• Solid Subframe and Differential Bushings
• Trailing Arms
• 160 degree high flow stat
• Embroidered Headrests
• MGW Short Throw Shifter
• Engine Management Calibration
• Custom HTR stripping package
• Authentification vin plate
• Certificate of authenticity with build serial number
• Warranty Coverage of 2 year from delivery or 24K miles
There’s even an “R” Package (HTR-SS454R) which includes:
• CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
• LSXr 102mm intake manifold
• Custom “T-R” camshaft by Redline Motorsports
• 3.73 rear gears
• 1000 HP axles
• 2” primary headers

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Very nice!! Man I really liked the blue with white stripes. The Yenkos usually auction for 100K plus. That's what's so cool about what's going on right now. If we're still here 40 years from now when these special edition 5th Gen Camaros, and other makes and models, are worth a mint, we can tell the story of how the muscle car wars were raging at that time. It's good stuff for our culture as Americans.

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

If I recall correctly 67 Yenko Camaros were engine swaps, 68s had COPO suspension but an engine swap at the dealer, and the 69s were COPOs with suspension and the 427 already equipped.

Yup, I believe you're right. I've watched a couple of shows on the Yenko but couldn't remember which years the dealer performed the engine swap.

[fbodfather]

I think everyone on the Camaro team wishes we could offer COPO cars as well...........

......the problem is that was the 60s and they're long gone. Back then we didn't have CAFE - we didn't have a national standard for emissions - and we didn't live in a litigious society whereby people sue people (and GM and other companies) at the drop of a hat.

We didn't have to crash test COPO cars - we didn't have to worry about their emissions......and because the Koreans weren't even building cars back then and very few people in the U.S. bought foreign cars, we didn't have to worry about costs - the profits just found their way to the 'big three' and AMC.

The world has changed..........BUT - you can still get a 'COPO' - like car (in terms of ultra-performance) As our friend Mr. Green points out - there are still dealers like Berger Chevrolet (the only 'Camaro supercar' dealer still in business and still run by the Berger Family) -- and Tom Henry Chevy and the special Camaros from Fairway Chevy (Las Vegas) and several others.

MOREOVER - we as a Camaro/Firebird community are blessed to have SLP and Ed and Dave Hamburger continually bringing out more and more Camaro performance -

So while you cannot order a 'stripper' Camaro (...and you can't order a stripper Challenger or Mustang either...there's a reason -- COST to develop one!) -- you can still get blistering performance RIGHT NOW - (and just wait until the mighty ZL1 hits the road course!)

One other thing to think about - the 'drivability' of performance cars back then left a lot to be desired - and we won't even start with fuel economy!

The 'golden age' of performance was not the late 60s - rather, it's NOW!

[LOWDOWN]

DuraMax Camaro: "Sources" tell me there is such a "mule"...or there was to be...w/a BabyMax 4.5.

COPO vs. modern reality: Today, with CAFE, and NHTSA, and corporate edicts, and potential litigation, every varient must be certified/validated/crash-tested...which means BIG buck$...spread over a potentially small number of units, which equals HIGH unit cost. As high or higher than the aftermarket can provide for, possibly.

Actually, a COPO 9561 L72 '69 Camaro listed for LESS than an L78 SS396!

EDIT: Scott, we're on the same page...

[chevy454]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

Are there any dealerships out there that have stepped up huge like Yenko did back in the late 60's with the Camaro and a few other models? I believe those Yenko Camaros came equipped with the 427. Did many of those racing crate motors find their way into the Yenko edition vehicles?

Nickey-Chicago built the 427 powered car below...