Applying Permanon to my car...

[NavyDood]

Originally Posted by boltmark

I think I'll stick with Zaino.

Ditto. The sheeting action is better with Zaino.

[atma]

after you've done beta testing your force field, you should also add a cloaking device and some photon torpedos. sorry, that was uncalled for. Permanonf actually works perfectly. no dirt, bugs or bird poop ever sticks to your paint, it just sticks to the Permanon. If every time the car got dirty, you could just peel a layer off like a lint roller, then that's something you can sign me up for!!

[HDRDTD]

It's the negative/positve charge part I don't believe.
It leaves a positive charge that PUSHES everything away????

It seems like it's just another form of paint protection like the ones the dealer will charge yoy $500 for when the actual bottle of it can be had for $70 or so.

[Jayson9]

I would be careful about applying that stuff to a paint job. Because, once you have an accident, your body man is going to be pissed as he tries to repaint any damaged parts coated with that sh!t....

There was another product called the Protector back in the late 80's. It was basically teflon based wax. It did a good job for the most part. But was a b!tch to get off when preping a car for paint repairs. By the way, you can still get it at Walmart in the boating/RV section near automotive. Just look for boat wax with teflon in it. I use it on my boats, and it helps to repel lake crap really well.

[Gator6977]

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

I doubt it to tell you the truth but if you see some videos on youtube, the sheeting action is insane! I've never seen any wax or finish sheet the water like that before.

Try 3M's Ultra High Gloss Carnuba Wax. It's a PITA to get off but holy wow! And it can be difficult to find...

[Gator6977]

Originally Posted by HDRDTD

It's the negative/positve charge part I don't believe.
It leaves a positive charge that PUSHES everything away????

Sounds like what Pledge and Endust have been producing for years for furniture. Wouldn't recommend putting either on your car.

[superchargemyride]

Originally Posted by boltmark

I think I'll stick with Zaino.

+2 and with Zaino"s you can't beat the depth of gloss. The more you use it the better your car looks and that product is highly proven.

[mulletman]

After your car is charged by the wax, your Camaro becomes a mobile lightning rod!

[fbody984life]

yes, it works for them.you will be left with a negative in your pocket, and a positive in there bank account.

[dudemangod]

Originally Posted by superchargemyride

+2 and with Zaino"s you can't beat the depth of gloss. The more you use it the better your car looks and that product is highly proven.

+3 I love Zaino

[HDRDTD]

Originally Posted by fbody984life

yes, it works for them.you will be left with a negative in your pocket, and a positive in there bank account.

Aaaah, NOW it makes sense.

[scythezo6]

The negative/positive charge is BS!
Not everything you want to apply this stuff to has a finite minus charge. Some surfaces are neutral or even positive. You can change surface charge of many objects by simply rubbing against them. If your paint "is" minus charged, and this stuff is positive charged, when they interact the charges would neutralize. If either the surface or the chemical were more charged in one polarity vs the other, you would just get aggregation, but charges would still neutralize. Plus and minus attract and upon interaction of enough molecules, charge is lost. This would mean, no positive charge after application to "repel" dust! You would just have a neutral surface charge on the paint. AND not all dirt and grim stick to your car on a charge basis. You have chemicals that can covalently link to your paint (strong chemical bond that requires energy to break) or you can have greases/oils stick to your paint by hydrophobic interactions for example. These 2 are effected to some extent by charge but mostly not.

I'm calling this BS. Anyone with any kind of education in chemistry, biology or physics can see through this.

[ChadG]

Originally Posted by scythezo6

The negative/positive charge is BS!
Not everything you want to apply this stuff to has a finite minus charge. Some surfaces are neutral or even positive. You can change surface charge of many objects by simply rubbing against them. If your paint "is" minus charged, and this stuff is positive charged, when they interact the charges would neutralize. If either the surface or the chemical were more charged in one polarity vs the other, you would just get aggregation, but charges would still neutralize. Plus and minus attract and upon interaction of enough molecules, charge is lost. This would mean, no positive charge after application to "repel" dust! You would just have a neutral surface charge on the paint. AND not all dirt and grim stick to your car on a charge basis. You have chemicals that can covalently link to your paint (strong chemical bond that requires energy to break) or you can have greases/oils stick to your paint by hydrophobic interactions for example. These 2 are effected to some extent by charge but mostly not.

I'm calling this BS. Anyone with any kind of education in chemistry, biology or physics can see through this.

Beat me to it . . . I'm a physicist and yeah . . . charge will transfer upon contact.

[Draven1327]

subscribed...... im curious. although i know you cant change physics