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Nito · 11-16-2011, 01:14 AM

Thank you for the great info.

*GTAHVIT* · 11-16-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nito

Thanks for the info

, I was actually giving TSP headers a though

What you think of them?

I'm afraid I don't... But I haven't heard anything bad???

Nito · 11-16-2011, 11:10 AM

You coated your headers ?

Raptor626 · 11-16-2011, 11:42 AM

If you can afford the coating, sure go for it. It's always a good idea to keep temps. as low as possible.

Ratt · 11-16-2011, 11:52 AM

I have the ARH 1 7/8” headers. I have been told by 2 different shops that sell and promote another brand of header that the ARH header will give an extra 10HP over all the others. I don’t know if it’s true or not but my car is at a performance shop now getting Dyno’ed. When I get the results I will post them.

This is the 3rd day the shop has had my car and the waiting is killing me.

Cpanthers85 · 11-16-2011, 12:06 PM

I went with the Kooks Stepped. I am getting them coated too... I was alreayd leaning towards the kooks because of their reputation and they are one of the few that offer a stepped header. And then I saw the two in person at a Car show a few weeks back and I decided to go with the Kooks.

Nito · 11-16-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratt

I have the ARH 1 7/8” headers. I have been told by 2 different shops that sell and promote another brand of header that the ARH header will give an extra 10HP over all the others. I don’t know if it’s true or not but my car is at a performance shop now getting Dyno’ed. When I get the results I will post them.

This is the 3rd day the shop has had my car and the waiting is killing me.

What brand is that? Send me a pm if you don't want to post it here.
And def put up your results when you get your car back

Thanks for your info.

bannonm · 11-16-2011, 12:23 PM

I bought the Kooks stepped and had them coated from Maryland Speed. They are being installed now as I write this. I have a before dyno and will have the after once it is tuned. I'll post the numbers hopefully by Friday.

I currently have CAI Inc intake and Borla S-type cat back. My initial pull was 377 RWHP and 366 TQ on a Mustang Dyno. Tuner said my car performed exceptionally well for what I have in it. He was surprised at the timing for a stock tune.

Nito · 11-16-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpanthers85

I went with the Kooks Stepped. I am getting them coated too... I was alreayd leaning towards the kooks because of their reputation and they are one of the few that offer a stepped header. And then I saw the two in person at a Car show a few weeks back and I decided to go with the Kooks.

Thanks and if you can post up your gains once you get them installed and dyno.

Nito · 11-16-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bannonm

I bought the Kooks stepped and had them coated from Maryland Speed. They are being installed now as I write this. I have a before dyno and will have the after once it is tuned. I'll post the numbers hopefully by Friday.

I currently have CAI Inc intake and Borla S-type cat back. My initial pull was 377 RWHP and 366 TQ on a Mustang Dyno. Tuner said my car performed exceptionally well for what I have in it. He was surprised at the timing for a stock tune.

Def great to have a baseline to go off , are you going to get it dyno also before tuning it? To see the gains from just the headers before the tune?
Either way thank you and looking forward to see your results

A.R. Headers · 11-16-2011, 12:31 PM

Nito, I've said this in the past but it bears repeating. There are no advantages to step headers on a street car with a full exhaust. It's colossal waste of money as the exhaust (especially with cats) hinders every advantage a step header provides. It's all hype I assure you. Whichever brand you choose, a straight header will perform to your expectations. Good luck whichever route you take.

Nick
A.R. Headers

bannonm · 11-16-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nito

Def great to have a baseline to go off , are you going to get it dyno also before tuning it? To see the gains from just the headers before the tune?
Either way thank you and looking forward to see your results

The before was just before the install, so I will see exactly what cats and headers do.

Nito · 11-16-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by A.R. Headers

Nito, I've said this in the past but it bears repeating. There are no advantages to step headers on a street car with a full exhaust. It's colossal waste of money as the exhaust (especially with cats) hinders every advantage a step header provides. It's all hype I assure you. Whichever brand you choose, a straight header will perform to your expectations. Good luck whichever route you take.

Nick
A.R. Headers

Thank you Nick . You said there is no advantage to step headers on a street car with a full exhaust and High flow cats , so in what set up is there any advantage of getting any stepped headers?

So far what I got is a K&N CAI , and a Flowmasters outlaw series 3" cat back.
Looking to do the headers with a tune and maybe a cam & pulley down the road, maybe I'll stop there .. most likely but maybe I won't

lsuguy · 11-16-2011, 12:45 PM

If you are able to get ARH for that price I would jump all over it. I have the ARH headers on my car and love them.

That being said you can't go wrong with Kooks either...

View Poll Results: Which header makes more power or would you choose?
Kooks stepped 1 3/4 - 1 7/8	43	54.43%
ARH 1 7/8	36	45.57%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

11-16-2011, 01:14 AM	#15
Nito Drives: 2016 1SS White MT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hollywood Florida Posts: 210	Thank you for the great info. __________________ 2016 White 1SS with Port & Polish Heads and Cam by Texas Speed , Forged Drop in Pistons and Rods by Cunningham M , Procharger D1SC , Air to Air Race Intercooler, Race Valve , Helical Gears , Alky Meth Kit , Zl1 Low Side Pump , LT4 HPFP , V-Max Ported TB , MSD Atomic IM , ARH 1-7/8 Catless , Borla S Type Cat-Back . Work done by Lashway Motorsports 790RWHP-649RWTQ

11-16-2011, 11:10 AM	#17
Nito Drives: 2016 1SS White MT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hollywood Florida Posts: 210	You coated your headers ? __________________ 2016 White 1SS with Port & Polish Heads and Cam by Texas Speed , Forged Drop in Pistons and Rods by Cunningham M , Procharger D1SC , Air to Air Race Intercooler, Race Valve , Helical Gears , Alky Meth Kit , Zl1 Low Side Pump , LT4 HPFP , V-Max Ported TB , MSD Atomic IM , ARH 1-7/8 Catless , Borla S Type Cat-Back . Work done by Lashway Motorsports 790RWHP-649RWTQ

11-16-2011, 12:06 PM	#20
Cpanthers85 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 473 View My Garage	I went with the Kooks Stepped. I am getting them coated too... I was alreayd leaning towards the kooks because of their reputation and they are one of the few that offer a stepped header. And then I saw the two in person at a Car show a few weeks back and I decided to go with the Kooks. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS L99 2017 Chevy SS 1979 Z28 Mods: Kooks Long Tube Headers, RotoFaB EForce CAI, American Thunder Catback Exhaust, PFADT Stage 1 Drag Kit + Front Sway Bar, GM Strut Tower Bar. ZL1 Fuel Pump. Nitto NT05R. RX Catch Can.LS9 Cam and Springs.LS3 Conversion.JRE Fuel Rail Upgrade.Edelbrock Eforce.60# Eforce Injectors.Extreme Racing Tune. 523/495 MY BUILD THREAD

11-16-2011, 12:31 PM	#25
A.R. Headers Drives: Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: new york Posts: 263	Nito, I've said this in the past but it bears repeating. There are no advantages to step headers on a street car with a full exhaust. It's colossal waste of money as the exhaust (especially with cats) hinders every advantage a step header provides. It's all hype I assure you. Whichever brand you choose, a straight header will perform to your expectations. Good luck whichever route you take. Nick A.R. Headers __________________ www.AmericanRacingHeaders.com 100% USA MADE

11-16-2011, 11:42 AM	#18
Raptor626 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Summit White Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Astoria, New York Posts: 796	If you can afford the coating, sure go for it. It's always a good idea to keep temps. as low as possible.

11-16-2011, 11:52 AM	#19
Ratt Account Suspended Drives: 2ss Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 199	I have the ARH 1 7/8” headers. I have been told by 2 different shops that sell and promote another brand of header that the ARH header will give an extra 10HP over all the others. I don’t know if it’s true or not but my car is at a performance shop now getting Dyno’ed. When I get the results I will post them. This is the 3rd day the shop has had my car and the waiting is killing me.

11-16-2011, 12:23 PM	#22
bannonm Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 VR Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,536	I bought the Kooks stepped and had them coated from Maryland Speed. They are being installed now as I write this. I have a before dyno and will have the after once it is tuned. I'll post the numbers hopefully by Friday. I currently have CAI Inc intake and Borla S-type cat back. My initial pull was 377 RWHP and 366 TQ on a Mustang Dyno. Tuner said my car performed exceptionally well for what I have in it. He was surprised at the timing for a stock tune.

11-16-2011, 12:45 PM	#28
lsuguy Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 362 View My Garage	If you are able to get ARH for that price I would jump all over it. I have the ARH headers on my car and love them. That being said you can't go wrong with Kooks either...

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