About to Purchase this 1967 RS. Comments?

[HTWLSS]

Right off the bat I see kick panels that have been cut up to put speakers in and I see reproduction door panels. Check the top of the wheel wells, underneath the trunk mat and look for damage repair or rust. Also, check to see if the rear window has rusted out or leaks.
Compare the numbers on the tag on the firewall with info found at: http://www.camaros.org/index.shtml
Do some decoding. On a '67, the cowl tag should tell you the options and will confirm if it is an RS. See if the owner's manual is with the car with a metal tag in it. That's called the Protect-o-Plate and should also tell you everything about the car.

Also, do you have a pic of the back of the car? Does it have RS tail lights with the reverse lights in the lower valance?

[HTWLSS]

Originally Posted by JerseyMonte

Looks nice not a bad price for an original the one in the pic went for 25k it is a clone originaly a 6 cyl pg now a 383, m21, 373 12 bolt costs alot to clone one

Though it might be a nicely modified coupe, it isn't an accurate clone of a '68 SS, as it has a cowl hood and not an SS hood (with louvers on a small block and stacks on a big block), and it's missing the rocker panel trim that an SS would have had. Also, where's the wheel well chrome?

[JerseyMonte]

Originally Posted by HTWLSS

Though it might be a nicely modified coupe, it isn't an accurate clone of a '68 SS, as it has a cowl hood and not an SS hood (with louvers on a small block and stacks on a big block), and it's missing the rocker panel trim that an SS would have had. Also, where's the wheel well chrome?

In all due respect , it wasn't made to be an exact copy. it was what I wanted it to be
I had a 67 SS/RS that had a spoiler,that wasn't available until 68,
a 69 cowl induction hood with a 69 LT1 engine under it because that is what I wanted
With all the money it cost do build, a couple hundred dollars is all it would cost to make it an exact repoduction.
By the way you missed the absence of the fender insignias

[jtwoods4]

Originally Posted by HTWLSS

Right off the bat I see kick panels that have been cut up to put speakers in and I see reproduction door panels. Check the top of the wheel wells, underneath the trunk mat and look for damage repair or rust. Also, check to see if the rear window has rusted out or leaks.
Compare the numbers on the tag on the firewall with info found at: http://www.camaros.org/index.shtml
Do some decoding. On a '67, the cowl tag should tell you the options and will confirm if it is an RS. See if the owner's manual is with the car with a metal tag in it. That's called the Protect-o-Plate and should also tell you everything about the car.

Also, do you have a pic of the back of the car? Does it have RS tail lights with the reverse lights in the lower valance?

Here is the rear end image you request:



I think I am going to bail out on this purchase because of the oil leak and heavy black undercoating all along the undercarriage. He also says new break lines were installed but I looked and they appear to be just painted silver to "look" new. I do not trust this guy because he basically has no information on anything about the vehicle other than what you can visually see.

Brake line below, told me it was new but looked painted silver

[Hylton]

Haha! Too lazy to change out the springs?

[HTWLSS]

Originally Posted by JerseyMonte

In all due respect , it wasn't made to be an exact copy. it was what I wanted it to be
I had a 67 SS/RS that had a spoiler,that wasn't available until 68,
a 69 cowl induction hood with a 69 LT1 engine under it because that is what I wanted
With all the money it cost do build, a couple hundred dollars is all it would cost to make it an exact repoduction.
By the way you missed the absence of the fender insignias

Sorry, I wasn't trying to dog on you at all. I did mention that it's a nicely modified car, and I think it looks great. I just wouldn't call it a "clone".

You are correct about how easy it is to clone a car. Emblems are relatively cheap compared to what people get out of a car by faking it as something else. We had a really nice, numbers matching, 327 '69 RS in Fathom Green that we could hardly get $14k for about 5 years ago. Had we put Z28 emblems on it, we could have doubled our money, but we also wouldn't have been able to sleep at night. Some people don't have ethics when it comes to faking a car. I prefer full disclosure. The RS the OP was looking at might be the real deal, but it's probably smart to decide to pass on it due to lack of information or documentation. I'd hate to see a fellow enthusiast get fooled. There will be plenty more down the road.
Cheers!

p.s.....I like your lack of emblems...it cleans up the look of the car. My husband's LS1 '68 is the same way. He likes to leave the emblems off, too!

[UCI CamaroFan]

I think you should get a magnet and run it along the body to make sure there is no bondo on the car. Also, you should get one of those books, and run the vin number to make sure that it is a real RS car... You can run the numbers on the engine block too to make sure it is original.

Also, I am not sure if the back end leaf springs are consistent with an RS... once I was looking at a 67 RS and it had a modified rear end suspension, but it had multi-leaf springs.... a 327 V8 engine is a lot of engine for single leaf springs in the back.

Finally, it is a little pricey. Cars like this are not selling with this recession. I would think that the car would be worth that in good times, but right now it is not worth that kind of money.

[zman302]

It looks like a nice car but the price is at the top end for a car like that. The car has been changed and if your looking for all original it would take more money to get it there plus fixing issues it has like the leaks and springs and seeing what they have covered up with all the painting that has been done. I would keep looking, there are alot of cars out there in that condition for around 15,000 to 20,000 and you could do alot of extras to the car and still be ahead.

[Z/28 Camaro]

To far removed from pure stock for that price. I don't think the restorer paid that much attention to detail. Way to much rust under the car.

[Gibb]

The new Camaro is great and I have one on order. Put any 1st Gen beside any 5th Gen and see which one gets the most attention. After the novelty of the new Camaro wears off the 1st Gen wil get the attention

[Gibb]

Check out the body mounts. Mine sat crooked as well. I had to change the mounts to get it to sit correctly. If it has spring spacers what else is there that you do not see. I am not trying to rain on your parade but I got it stuck to me real good when I bought my first one. Since then I have had to completely rebuild the car. I have so much money in it I can't live long enough to get it back.

[CAMARO67BLUES]

I own a 67 myself, I looked at alot of cars before I found one in my price range and one I was happy to buy, the bottom line is it is alot of money for a car with little documentation. Trust yourself if you have any doubts dont buy, there are other camaros for sale.

[BlackSunsine]

Well, that sure does remind me of how mine used to look. I had a plane Jane 67 with the 327 (210HP) and power glide, and I really liked it. But it was slow.
Marina Blue, with black vinyl interior and only an AM Radio.
Drum Brakes

The Mono Leaf in the rear created a nice ass sag too.

I bought mine in 1983 for $2,450.00

I researched and found if I had kept it all original, it would be around $14,000 today.

So, $24,000 for an RS, true or not, is fair.

It is all do you really want it?

and yet, if the current owner does not have documentation, it may not be original.

Good luck.