Pics of 4/26/2011 top versus a 6/27/2012 revision retrofit top - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

spikess581 · 09-12-2012, 06:44 PM

Congrats to sstoked and pony. I hope all your problems are over and thanks for the pics

pony · 09-12-2012, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikess581

Congrats to sstoked and pony. I hope all your problems are over and thanks for the pics

Thanks for the Jinx

see here....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=275

spikess581 · 09-12-2012, 09:47 PM

I'm so sorry! I just read your post with the pics. It looks like it is rubbing on that joint. Is there a rough edge on that?

pony · 09-12-2012, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikess581

I'm so sorry! I just read your post with the pics. It looks like it is rubbing on that joint. Is there a rough edge on that?

Haven't had time to fully investigate, but nothing "jumps out". Will take a closer look and see if there is anything that is rubbing/pinching and see if something can be done. Quit a bit of damage already though.

evlar · 09-15-2012, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSTOKED

This one clearly shows how the old top touches the rear trim and the new one does not. If you have an old top that touches this trim and you drive around without a tonneau cover on your top you are risking premature wear regardless of whether or not you think it is right or wrong of GM not making the tonneau cover a requirement.

So does your new top rub against the back deck when driving like the old one?

SSTOKED · 09-15-2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evlar

So does your new top rub against the back deck when driving like the old one?

I'd have to have to have someone in the back seat to confirm but knowing how far it is from the trim when down I would say no. Plus there are no marks evident yet.

evlar · 09-15-2012, 02:19 PM

Keep us posted on that item. My original top is fine except this one issue. I refuse to take the extra time to put on my tonneau cover since it is not supposed to be required. Like you said, I am paying for it as the marks where it flaps against the back are getting worse and will eventually fray. I've given up on freaking out about this and just accept it. I will file a warranty claim at about 2.5 years after ownership and get my new top then. Hopefully GM will have a better fix by then!

LessSinister · 11-19-2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evlar

Keep us posted on that item. My original top is fine except this one issue. I refuse to take the extra time to put on my tonneau cover since it is not supposed to be required. Like you said, I am paying for it as the marks where it flaps against the back are getting worse and will eventually fray. I've given up on freaking out about this and just accept it. I will file a warranty claim at about 2.5 years after ownership and get my new top then. Hopefully GM will have a better fix by then!

As SStoked said, running without the tonneau cover risks premature top failure or in my case the top fraying where the top rubs the back weatherstrip moulding. I took the car to a dealer close to work (not the original selling dealer) out of convenience and showed him the damage. I got a call back from them after looking into it and said that they will be replacing my top with a retro-fit top. I saw a ZL-1 convertible in the showroom that had at least a 1/2-1" clearance all around the back of the folded top so hopefully this is what I'll get. I'm at 33,667 KMs, out of a 36,000 bumper-to-bumper warranty. The service rep says it will take a couple of days to install once they get it.

Btw, the dealer wants $74,499.99 for the Silver Auto ZL-1 vert.

evlar · 11-19-2012, 07:32 PM

Thanks Sinister. I only have 9,500 miles on my vert, but I too would be taking it in if I were at your mileage. My marks will be frays in just a matter of time. I refuse to have to put on my tonneau cover as it was never designed to be a required item for top down driving and is a pain in the rear to do. Some think nothing of it, but I want to simply twist the handle and push the button. It should be that simple.

SSTOKED · 11-19-2012, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LessSinister

As SStoked said, running without the tonneau cover risks premature top failure or in my case the top fraying where the top rubs the back weatherstrip moulding. I took the car to a dealer close to work (not the original selling dealer) out of convenience and showed him the damage. I got a call back from them after looking into it and said that they will be replacing my top with a retro-fit top. I saw a ZL-1 convertible in the showroom that had at least a 1/2-1" clearance all around the back of the folded top so hopefully this is what I'll get. I'm at 33,667 KMs, out of a 36,000 bumper-to-bumper warranty. The service rep says it will take a couple of days to install once they get it.

Btw, the dealer wants $74,499.99 for the Silver Auto ZL-1 vert.

It's a leap of faith to start this process. You NEED to make sure they have experience successfully doing this job AT THE DEALERSHIP or are getting a trained GM field engineer. The amount of detail and step by step instructions that have to be followed to perform this job is a lot to ask just any tech to complete without errors. The facebook group has the instructions! Check them out...https://www.facebook.com/groups/2269...2634746457804/

evlar · 11-20-2012, 01:25 AM

Just read the new top install instructions. Holy crap! That's no joke on the difficulty. I am not going to be somebody's guinea pig. When I get my top replaced, I will travel to a dealer with some experience in these new tops. Likely the one Drago used in Orlando. Wow..

How GM has not recalled these tops I have no idea.

ghostrider2 · 03-30-2014, 09:49 PM

Alright some time as passed, any update on how the new top is wearing? Thank you!

SSTOKED · 03-31-2014, 11:54 AM

Well, it was fine during last summer. The only minor issue I had was the rubber clips that hang the water bag from the sheet metal split between the "wet" and "dry" side of the car interior. The rubber clips were being pulled slightly when the top was put down. The Camaro/Corvette technician at my dealership put some metal clips over the rubber clips to hold them in place better. I can't get a picture now since my car is still in storage.

RAP2011RSRAGTOP · 04-20-2014, 02:52 PM

DID THEY REPLACE THE FABRIC TOP OR THE WHOLE TOP ASSY ?
I HAVE A 2011 WITH SAME PROBLEM.
I THINK I NEED THE WATER BAG AND TOP DONE, I JUST WAS NOT SURE IF YOU HAD THE MECHANICAL ARMS AND BOWS REPLACED AS WELL.
THANKS.

03-31-2014, 11:54 AM	#27
SSTOKED Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: May 2012 Location: Webster, NY Posts: 283	Well, it was fine during last summer. The only minor issue I had was the rubber clips that hang the water bag from the sheet metal split between the "wet" and "dry" side of the car interior. The rubber clips were being pulled slightly when the top was put down. The Camaro/Corvette technician at my dealership put some metal clips over the rubber clips to hold them in place better. I can't get a picture now since my car is still in storage. __________________ HISTORY: Born on 4/26/2011 Partially reborn on 7/3/2012 (water bag upgrade) Complete rebirth 8/27/2012 (new 6/27/2012 revision top installed, new carpet, new tonneau cover and new third brake light) MODS: Solo Performance Exhaust: Axle Back with J-Pipes

09-12-2012, 06:44 PM	#15
spikess581 Drives: IOM2SSconvertible,64 malibu,04fxdwg Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bristol Pa Posts: 356	Congrats to sstoked and pony. I hope all your problems are over and thanks for the pics

09-12-2012, 09:47 PM	#17
spikess581 Drives: IOM2SSconvertible,64 malibu,04fxdwg Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bristol Pa Posts: 356	I'm so sorry! I just read your post with the pics. It looks like it is rubbing on that joint. Is there a rough edge on that?

09-15-2012, 02:19 PM	#21
evlar Drives: 2011 (L99) 2SS/RS vert Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL Posts: 200 View My Garage	Keep us posted on that item. My original top is fine except this one issue. I refuse to take the extra time to put on my tonneau cover since it is not supposed to be required. Like you said, I am paying for it as the marks where it flaps against the back are getting worse and will eventually fray. I've given up on freaking out about this and just accept it. I will file a warranty claim at about 2.5 years after ownership and get my new top then. Hopefully GM will have a better fix by then!

11-19-2012, 07:32 PM	#23
evlar Drives: 2011 (L99) 2SS/RS vert Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL Posts: 200 View My Garage	Thanks Sinister. I only have 9,500 miles on my vert, but I too would be taking it in if I were at your mileage. My marks will be frays in just a matter of time. I refuse to have to put on my tonneau cover as it was never designed to be a required item for top down driving and is a pain in the rear to do. Some think nothing of it, but I want to simply twist the handle and push the button. It should be that simple.

11-20-2012, 01:25 AM	#25
evlar Drives: 2011 (L99) 2SS/RS vert Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL Posts: 200 View My Garage	Just read the new top install instructions. Holy crap! That's no joke on the difficulty. I am not going to be somebody's guinea pig. When I get my top replaced, I will travel to a dealer with some experience in these new tops. Likely the one Drago used in Orlando. Wow.. How GM has not recalled these tops I have no idea.

03-30-2014, 09:49 PM	#26
ghostrider2 Drives: 2014 Bright Yellow ZL1 Vert/M6 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Spokane, Washington Posts: 551	Alright some time as passed, any update on how the new top is wearing? Thank you!

04-20-2014, 02:52 PM	#28
RAP2011RSRAGTOP Drives: 2018 ZL1 CONV. & 2011 2LT RS CONV. Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: LECANTO, FL. Posts: 69	DID THEY REPLACE THE FABRIC TOP OR THE WHOLE TOP ASSY ? I HAVE A 2011 WITH SAME PROBLEM. I THINK I NEED THE WATER BAG AND TOP DONE, I JUST WAS NOT SURE IF YOU HAD THE MECHANICAL ARMS AND BOWS REPLACED AS WELL. THANKS.