Acceleration

[Msmall143]

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[Wilsonation]

Originally Posted by Msmall143

A few road test results and not marketing crap

I don't get what your point is? I already said it's been tested as faster, even though GM claims it isn't. That was the whole point of my first post, that it is faster. I was simply also stating there are others who say it's not any faster.

[Jims Mongoose]

Originally Posted by Wilsonation

Not that I'd be able to find it now, but I've seen numerous people on here say it's not. But, maybe it's just them trying to make themselves feel better about not having the 1LE.

I have said it in various threads, and I'll say it again. I drove both cars at my dealership where I bought my 1LE. An SS with manual and a 1LE with manual.

The 1LE pulls harder is more responsive to throttle inputs. If responds quicker, less lag and is definitely faster, 0-60, probably 0-80 or more. Many dynos show the 1LE's dyno with higher hp figures, maybe as much as 20 to 25 hp more. Combine that with the 3.90 gears and yes it is faster.
Now if it's faster in the Quarter mile I donot know. some tests say yes, but others say the extra shift can slow it down. I believe stock the 1Le makes 450 to 460 stock at the crank.

My thoughts and observations from alot of reports and observations made in many threads. By the way when I drove the manual SS I drove a few of them and stock for stock they all seem to lack the punch of the 1LE.


Jimjust saying.

[Wilsonation]

Originally Posted by Jims Mongoose

I have said it in various threads, and I'll say it again. I drove both cars at my dealership where I bought my 1LE. An SS with manual and a 1LE with manual.

The 1LE pulls harder is more responsive to throttle inputs. If responds quicker, less lag and is definitely faster, 0-60, probably 0-80 or more. Many dynos show the 1LE's dyno with higher hp figures, maybe as much as 20 to 25 hp more. Combine that with the 3.90 gears and yes it is faster.
Now if it's faster in the Quarter mile I donot know. some tests say yes, but others say the extra shift can slow it down. I believe stock the 1Le makes 450 to 460 stock at the crank.

My thoughts and observations from alot of reports and observations made in many threads. By the way when I drove the manual SS I drove a few of them and stock for stock they all seem to lack the punch of the 1LE.


Jimjust saying.

I completely agree. If you go to my first post, the whole point of that was saying the 1LE is faster. I was just adding that other people claim it is not faster.

If I didn't think it was faster, why would I have ordered one? lol.

[Wilsonation]

Originally Posted by Msmall143

My point is that when you look at road test result ie the facts it is not hugely debated.

Meanwhile you are trying to debate it! You're basing your opinion on a marketing brochure and not personal experience or expert opinion.

It's annoying. Your wanting to prove your right when you said its hugely debated and its not. Maybe it's hugely debated by people who don't know facts from fiction!

There is a reason swapping 3.91 gears is a very common mod on an ss. 3.91 gears being quicker isn't a chevy or gm thing, its a car thing.

I never once said myself it isn't faster. I in fact was saying it is faster. I was just saying that I've seen a lot of posts on here saying that it isn't, and that it says it isn't in the brochure. That's all. I'm not trying to "prove" anything. I'm simply passing on what I have seen myself. I'll say again, the whole point of my post was that IT IS FASTER. Get over yourself. You're looking for an argument when there is nothing to argue. So maybe "hugely" was an overstatement. So what? Get over it. I have bigger things to worry about then what someone on the internet thinks is annoying.

Again. Why the hell would I spend an extra $3,500 on the 1LE package on the car I ordered if I thought it wasn't any faster? Seems dumb to me.

[Wilsonation]

Originally Posted by Msmall143

I'm looking for an argument? Maybe I should have just let you mislead people. "Removed insulting comment"

FYI...your first response could have been. "Hugely debated may have been an overstatement" and it would have been left alone.

And looking back it seems you type first and think second. It the first time you chose your words poorly
Feel free to pm me if you have additional statements

If you don't like what I have to say, tough. You're the only one who has tried to argue with me on a public forum, ever. So if you have a problem with me, get over it. Also telling someone you've never met to "go find a bridge." Really, really mature. Edit it out or not, who are you to say that to a complete stranger? Seems you're the one with the problem.

Either way, I was nice the first time. I won't be again. Don't like what I say? Ignore it. I have no ties to you, don't care what you think.



Anyway, OP. Good choice on the car. Post tons of pics when you get it! Looking forward to seeing it. Definitely post about your first reactions driving it too!!

[Orange Crush 1LE]

Originally Posted by Msmall143

My point is that when you look at road test result ie the facts it is not hugely debated.

Meanwhile you are trying to debate it! You're basing your opinion on a marketing brochure and not personal experience or expert opinion.

It's annoying because you're feeding the confusion. Someones gonna read this and go to the next thread and say "its debated....". Your wanting to prove your right when you said its hugely debated and its not. Maybe it's hugely debated by people who don't know facts from fiction!

There is a reason swapping 3.91 gears is a very common mod on an ss. 3.91 gears being quicker isn't a chevy or gm thing, its a car thing.

I don't know, I didn't see him debating, I saw you getting pretty nit-picky about minor semantics.

Seems like this thread turned into an argument about nothing at all. Can I please have my five minutes back?

[Wilsonation]

Originally Posted by Orange Crush 1LE

I don't know, I didn't see him debating, I saw you getting pretty nit-picky about minor semantics.

Seems like this thread turned into an argument about nothing at all. Can I please have my five minutes back?

If I could give you five minutes I would! Lol! By the way, I love the color of your car. I wanted to order mine in IOM but couldn't for 2014 :( !

[Orange Crush 1LE]

Originally Posted by Wilsonation

If I could give you five minutes I would! Lol! By the way, I love the color of your car. I wanted to order mine in IOM but couldn't for 2014 :( !

Thanks. And I'd trade the color for the 2014's hood vents and those sweet Recaros

[Wilsonation]

Originally Posted by Orange Crush 1LE

Thanks. And I'd trade the color for the 2014's hood vents and those sweet Recaros

Haha that's why I chose the the black '14. And I actually like the styling more. Didn't get recaros though. Will add those later.

[Novie LE]

Isn't the top speed in the first 2 gears for both the SS and the 1LE identical? Gearing should not matter in these 0-60 sprints.

[gbmike]

Anyway, OP. Good choice on the car. Post tons of pics when you get it! Looking forward to seeing it. Definitely post about your first reactions driving it too!!

Wow, didn't intend to set off a public argument, sorry about that chaps! I know there are a lot of people with strong feelings on this forum, my point about the difference in acceleration was on the road that's not huge but hope we could at least feel some difference; and also noticed the brochure hadn't differentiated. I've watched Formula 1 since the late 70's so totally understand the point of the changes for the difference it should make on the track

Anyway, yep sure will, looking forward to it, gone from the V6 to v8 and now 1LE, so should be interesting!

[Msmall143]

Originally Posted by Orange Crush 1LE

I don't know, I didn't see him debating, I saw you getting pretty nit-picky about minor semantics.

Seems like this thread turned into an argument about nothing at all. Can I please have my five minutes back?

Agreed, he's pissed me off in previous threads with his choice of words so I got a bit of a short fuse with him.

[Msmall143]

Originally Posted by Novie LE

Isn't the top speed in the first 2 gears for both the SS and the 1LE identical? Gearing should not matter in these 0-60 sprints.

Where are you seeing that info? I'd like to check it out. The way understand it is that the 3.91 gets you to your peak power quicker. It would be interesting to see where you saw this but even if both top speeds are the same the power delivery with gears could be different.

tires and weight may be the factor.