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Old 11-28-2013, 01:32 PM   #15
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Heard it was better for the V6 than V8, but if you would divide that amount by miles and how much you stop and go, shut down and start, and realize that if instead it vaporized and flash burned off as the engineers designed, it really isn't that much or consequential.

The debate is about how it fouls up the valves or God knows what else, but where the oil is by that point, whether going to your catch-can or flashing off.....the oil is past the point of fouling.
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Old 11-28-2013, 05:48 PM   #16
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My first oil change at 5K miles had this much in the can. I think that's an 8 oz. cup.
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Old 11-28-2013, 05:55 PM   #17
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Heard it was better for the V6 than V8, but if you would divide that amount by miles and how much you stop and go, shut down and start, and realize that if instead it vaporized and flash burned off as the engineers designed, it really isn't that much or consequential.

The debate is about how it fouls up the valves or God knows what else, but where the oil is by that point, whether going to your catch-can or flashing off.....the oil is past the point of fouling.
Correct. The V6 needs it, the V8 doesn't "need it" as much but it can't hurt. I have it an Elite can an on my SS and get about an oz or so every 5k miles.


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Old 11-28-2013, 08:33 PM   #18
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Correct. The V6 needs it, the V8 doesn't "need it" as much but it can't hurt. I have it an Elite can an on my SS and get about an oz or so every 5k miles.


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I believe he's saying no car needs it.
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:14 PM   #19
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Heres a cool video of how much oil can accumulate in a short drive. I believe this is a 30 minute run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Y9klkDCItEY
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:20 PM   #20
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i dont understand. the V6 needs it or not? i have a new 2 LT, is this more beneficial for v6 over the v8 or is it the same benefit for both?
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:22 PM   #21
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Went from Montréal to Detroit Woodward Dream Cruise last august, a 1,200 miles run and here's what my Elite can caught.

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Old 11-28-2013, 09:24 PM   #22
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I took what not said to mean it isn't necessary. if what he's saying is correct, even though what some of these pics are showing looks like a lot, the amount that is getting through with each cycle of the engine is miniscule. he's also saying that not only is the amount tiny, but it simply flash burns, as the engineers designed it to. he's also saying that it happens once it's got past the valves, so it's irrelevant to keeping the valves clean anyways.

all internal combustion motors burn some oil. I've never had engine problems with any car I've owned because I didn't have a catch can. IMO, if it were necessary then it would come standard. not saying it's pointless to have one, but I highly doubt it will make any difference to your motor
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Old 11-28-2013, 10:07 PM   #23
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:40 PM   #24
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Yeah, my catch can works. It seems like it's more effective on V6 cars too.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:55 PM   #25
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all internal combustion motors burn some oil. I've never had engine problems with any car I've owned because I didn't have a catch can. IMO, if it were necessary then it would come standard. not saying it's pointless to have one, but I highly doubt it will make any difference to your motor
I used to be 100% with you. But I pulled my intake manifold off last week and I was disgusted with how much oil was in the manifold, intake ports, etc...I was always the one that said catch cans are only needed in forced induction cars and if the car needed one, the manufacturer would have put one on. Well, the 1LEs have them stock so GM knows theres a problem. I invested in one this week. Should be here Saturday. Might wanna take your manifold off and see how it looks inside.
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:47 AM   #26
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I used to be 100% with you. But I pulled my intake manifold off last week and I was disgusted with how much oil was in the manifold, intake ports, etc...I was always the one that said catch cans are only needed in forced induction cars and if the car needed one, the manufacturer would have put one on. Well, the 1LEs have them stock so GM knows theres a problem. I invested in one this week. Should be here Saturday. Might wanna take your manifold off and see how it looks inside.
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Isn't the catch can on the 1LE placed somewhere completely different than the ones that are to be installed that are sold after-market here by many vendors?

Does the new C7 Stingray have a catch-can? Wonder if the Z/28 will come so equipped?

Just broke a timing belt on a 4cyl. Subaru motor, and all the valves were clean as a whistle. Of course 14 of the 16 were bent beyond repair, but still clean ha. Engine has 189k miles on it and never a catch-can. I was going to change the belt in about 11k more miles or every 100k but the belt wouldn't wait..........................
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:52 AM   #27
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Okay, so here's a stupid question...

I take my car to my dealer for oil changes. The price is very fair and they always do a really good job. So, would they just empty it for me at every oil change? And would they install it for me, too? I know it's an easy install, but I saw a thread last month about a guy who accidentally F'd up a crucial part during the install. So I'm not going to even attempt that.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:38 AM   #28
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Catch can does work.

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Okay, so here's a stupid question...

I take my car to my dealer for oil changes. The price is very fair and they always do a really good job. So, would they just empty it for me at every oil change? And would they install it for me, too? I know it's an easy install, but I saw a thread last month about a guy who accidentally F'd up a crucial part during the install. So I'm not going to even attempt that.
Every dealer is different with aftermarket mods so you'll have to ask them about installing, as for emptying they'd probably do that if you can't handle it.

As for the install itself, honesty if you are not able to do it on your own you probably cannot change a tire. My point is it's simple and the chances of breaking something is extremely hard.



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