Poll: What is considered a ZL1 "bolt on"?

[Stephen12ZL1]

Originally Posted by Victoryred1le

If you put a nick Williams 102 tb on your car, Is that not a bolt on? maybe this guy should just do that so it would shut everyone up. My company competes with redline so I know if Howard needs to he will put a stock one on and find power somewhere else so your argument is futile. I voted it a bolt on...because it is factory optimized equipment.

a 102mm will not fit on a stock snout without machine work...part of the reason I was asking people's opinion on the whole "bolt on" saga. If these mods are still considered "bolt ons" I suppose a Kenne Bell supercharger or ZR1 supercharger is too...hell, I suppose twin turbos by redline are bolt on as well. I appreciate the input I am reading.

[Stephen12ZL1]

Originally Posted by ZL1-V

It always has been considered a "bolt on".

"You have always been the caretaker...I should know". Seriously, I just wanted clarification if I am going to dig deeper searching for more hp.

[Wezbad1]

When has "porting" ever been a Bolton? If a company made a production ported snout then yea, you could bolt that on and I would consider that a "bolt on" . If you take your snout off on have it ported, then I would say that's been modified, never to be returned to stock specs. Lots of gray area in this discussion.

[Stephen12ZL1]

Originally Posted by Wezbad1

When has "porting" ever been a Bolton? If a company made a production ported snout then yea, you could bolt that on and I would consider that a "bolt on" . If you take your snout off on have it ported, then I would say that's been modified, never to be returned to stock specs. Lots of gray area in this discussion.

yes, well stated...and the reason for this poll/thread. If this were a Maggie or Whipple bolted on an SS, I can understand what many are saying but then that car would be in the "power adder" category.

[Go big or Go home]

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

Just for fun let's see what the masses consider a "bolt on" with a ZL1 .....

..... Airflow within the blower can be changed via porting the case & porting the snout. When does air enter the "engine"? Is the blower part of our "engine" because it is a factory installed part? Take the poll.

I can understand where there is slight confusion; however in my opinion, it is not enough to validate your argument. An engine will run perfectly well without a supercharger, whether it came stock or not. And in the case of the heads comparison, good luck running an engine without heads. Therefore, if the part (supercharger in this case) is not essential for the engine to run, it is not "the engine". With that being said, if the supercharger is not "the engine" then modifying it would easily fit into "modified airway" and into the bolt-on description.

Let's be honest here, you are only bringing up this argument because the ZL1 in the number 2 spot on the Fast List is quickly approaching your time - your number one spot. And you want to simply discredit his eligibility in the bolt on category. My advise, stop debating semantics; go run your car. If you want to be the best, you have to bet the best.

[UF4LIFE102SS]

2 Stephens fighting it out! That is Merc's decision! I think that would be a bolt on. Just have it done to yours and c what u get. U will have better air than we will ever get! If Stephen and Redline want it good luck unless u have a shop behind u. It's time!

[white ZL1]

Stock longblock = bolt-ons on most every forum I've been a member on.
Well, and of course forced induction or nitrous.

[Camaro21]

I can't believe this is even an issue. So what if he has a ported snout, it's not like he has a BOLT ON nitrous system or forged intetnals, etc. Who's to say the #1 spot holder doesn't have his done? Where in the Bolt-On rules does it specify that it can't be? If I was #1 and I did get beat by someone that had it ported and wanted my spot back, then I would have mine ported and go back after the spot!!!

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[Camaro21]

Originally Posted by Camaro21

I can't believe this is even an issue. So what if he has a ported snout, it's not like he has a BOLT ON nitrous system or forged intetnals, etc. Who's to say the #1 spot holder doesn't have his done? Where in the Bolt-On rules does it specify that it can't be? If I was #1 and I did get beat by someone that had it ported and wanted my spot back, then I would have mine ported and go back after the spot!!!

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I vote Bolt-On


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[Stephen12ZL1]

Originally Posted by Go big or Go home

I can understand where there is slight confusion; however in my opinion, it is not enough to validate your argument. An engine will run perfectly well without a supercharger, whether it came stock or not. And in the case of the heads comparison, good luck running an engine without heads. Therefore, if the part (supercharger in this case) is not essential for the engine to run, it is not "the engine". With that being said, if the supercharger is not "the engine" then modifying it would easily fit into "modified airway" and into the bolt-on description.

Let's be honest here, you are only bringing up this argument because the ZL1 in the number 2 spot on the Fast List is quickly approaching your time - your number one spot. And you want to simply discredit his eligibility in the bolt on category. My advise, stop debating semantics; go run your car. If you want to be the best, you have to bet the best.

Good points made and taken. I just wanted to confirm these mods as "bolt ons" and I surely don't want to mod something that would discredit myself if I decided to use ported supercharger parts. I could bolt lightweight wheels/skinnies on my car if I wanted an extra tenth. Everything I am arguing is to confirm without a doubt that our cars have been placed in the appropriate category given the mods present.

[big dave]

I honestly think bolt-ons can be taken many different ways...this is why guidelines have to be put in place to clarify what it takes to meet certain class rules. Though the ported snout may not be considered a bolt-on to some, I think it would fall under the category of a free mod. This is why I voted it a bolt on...as opposed to an internal mod.

[cam99]

Wow this is alot of drama over a ported snout. I got a bit of flack from one of the stephens when I was closing in on the number one spot regarding weight reduction being an unfair advantage. I guess this could go on forever nit picking everybodies mods. The same could be said for DA. Running at 2000 vs. -2000 is a huge difference Just disclose whats done and run the car. people will make their own judgements. Personally I'm just out to see how fast I can go with my car

[acatlover13]

Originally Posted by cam99

Wow this is alot of drama over a ported snout. I got a bit of flack from one of the stephens when I was closing in on the number one spot regarding weight reduction being an unfair advantage. I guess this could go on forever nit picking everybodies mods. The same could be said for DA. Running at 2000 vs. -2000 is a huge difference Just disclose whats done and run the car. people will make their own judgements. Personally I'm just out to see how fast I can go with my car

So would weight reduction be considered a "bolt-off?"

But back to the original question......if the supercharger or heads or anything inside the block didn't have to come off the car, then it should be considered a bolt on.

[xcarolina23]

bolt on IMO