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Old 03-19-2015, 06:07 PM   #15
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I think the Hellcat is a powerful car but I prefer the looks and all around performance of my ZL1 Camaro to them. Im just amazed with all the individuals that are posting stuff about the Hellcat on the ZL1 forum don't even own a ZL1.
This exactly. The performance is great on the Hellcat, but it's ugly and knowing Dodge/Chrysler the quality is going to be garbage.

The non-ZL1 owners thing boggles my mind...
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:27 PM   #16
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6% driveline loss? BS
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Old 03-19-2015, 07:17 PM   #17
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True, I own a '12 SRT and can only do close to nothing with that PCM.

Yeah I thought I read about them having to swap ECMs from older models. Guess there really doing this car right.
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Old 03-19-2015, 07:22 PM   #18
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Old 03-19-2015, 09:11 PM   #19
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I thought that ecm was PITA to tune. It is pretty insane.
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That's what I was thinking... Also, I just read yesterday that the ECM was going to be pretty hard for tuners to crack, what happened to that?
True, Hennessey won't even work on them. No support from Dodge.
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Old 03-19-2015, 09:15 PM   #20
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Those numbers aren't surprising . When dodge original built the first Hellcat motor it was 835HP and from there it was dialed back for the warranty.
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Old 03-19-2015, 09:25 PM   #21
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Those numbers aren't surprising . When dodge original built the first Hellcat motor it was 835HP and from there it was dialed back for the warranty.

Is this documented somewhere?
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Old 03-19-2015, 10:44 PM   #22
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2.4 litre supercharger and 12psi

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1.9 supercharger and 9psi


...and there it is
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:25 PM   #23
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:51 PM   #24
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660rwhp for manuals is what they are doing. Dodge seriously under rates them. Even the autos are doing 630-640rwhp.

Saw a black one at gym yesterday, and red one this morning. Plus my neighbor has a bright green one. They are popping up all over the place here.
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:49 PM   #25
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That's what I was thinking... Also, I just read yesterday that the ECM was going to be pretty hard for tuners to crack, what happened to that?
HP Tuners has recently put effort in and cracked the Dodge ECU. They should be press releasing the info soon. It is on HP Tuners forum.
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:56 AM   #26
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Those numbers aren't surprising . When dodge original built the first Hellcat motor it was 835HP and from there it was dialed back for the warranty.
I heard it was dialed back for emissions... and as far as I can tell its a rumor. Never heard it directly from Dodge.
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Old 03-21-2015, 09:48 AM   #27
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We're living in the best of times for horsepower wars!
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:32 AM   #28
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