Fabberge Twin turbo "Supercharger Killer"

[Ron_Robinson1]

Originally Posted by Fabberge

that is not where the name came from.

Enlighten us.....

[Tmick5jr]

i dont understand why people are getting so salty about it being called a supercharger killer. The numbers are right there and it obviously is making much more power than say a magnuson.

[Fabberge]

it is priced in the same price range as blower kits for these cars but make more power, no need to deal with belt issues, can control boost, etc.

[Fabberge]

Originally Posted by 2014camaro2ss

Im putting up a quick post on the Fabberge "supercharger killer" kit since there wasn't much that I could find on it other than it used to have affiliations with IPS. I can say the overall quality and fit of the kit was pretty nice. I did not do the install but I was there throughout the whole build. I have a 2014 Camaro 2ss which made fitment of the kit a little different and it needed a little modifying ( The kit was made for the 2010-13). A couple of the things that we noticed were the oil pump for the turbos will not fit in the same position as the 2010-13 do to gm changing the powering steering to electric and that motor happens to be in front of the bottom of the engine so we had to fit the pump on the other side of the bar and custom build a bracket to hold it (picture included). The oil lines feeding the turbos seemed to be a little off so the T feeder at the top had to be kinked a little to the side to make the lines fit (length wise). One minor thing to point out is they advertised for a 3'' down pipe and it ended up being a 2.5'' for the this kit. So it hooks strait up to your stock catback. I ended up buying the JBA catback 3in exhaust so if anyone in the Macon Georgia area needs one then let me know. All piping and placement for the kit were perfect, turbos hang a little bit low but theres a skid pad underneath. My car was lowered on coilovers so im probably gonna end up raising it up a little bit. As far as the rest of the build I got the Livernois dual fuel pump, 85 lb injectors, Go fast bits boost controller, and the spec 3+ clutch installed also. I have an appointment at Vengeance on Monday at 10 to get the car tuned. So that will be when all the fun happens. I will post up dyno sheets as well as other pics for the install as soon as I can get the pics in.

that's a very good looking car!

[2014camaro2ss]

If anyone was wondering how strong the (13000 miles) 2014 ss rearend(differential) was... not very strong at all. I don't have official word yet from shop but car definently doesn't move forward. Banging thru gears on the street, did a quick 1-2 shift and it let go. So now im looking for a knew rearend if anyone know a. Just an update

[Scuzz]

Originally Posted by 2014camaro2ss

If anyone was wondering how strong the (13000 miles) 2014 ss rearend(differential) was... not very strong at all. I don't have official word yet from shop but car definently doesn't move forward. Banging thru gears on the street, did a quick 1-2 shift and it let go. So now im looking for a knew rearend if anyone know a. Just an update

Damn my SS is still holding on.

[Trob85]

Looks like a good setup but I know I would tear those things off the car I already scrape my transmission pan bad enough.

[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by 2014camaro2ss

If anyone was wondering how strong the (13000 miles) 2014 ss rearend(differential) was... not very strong at all. I don't have official word yet from shop but car definently doesn't move forward. Banging thru gears on the street, did a quick 1-2 shift and it let go. So now im looking for a knew rearend if anyone know a. Just an update

Actually, nobody was wondering, we all know that they suck. Do the ZL1 conversion and dont look back.

[Badfinger]

Well, that saved me from asking if a stock drivetrain could handle that kind of HP.

[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by Badfinger

Well, that saved me from asking if a stock drivetrain could handle that kind of HP.

Stock drive train on a manual car can hardly hold the stock power. Some break axels at the strip. Others have really good luck.


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[TRC-SS]

Its amazing to see the power some of these turbo kits are putting out!!!

[sr71bb]

D3R3K is absolutely correct. A nice centri setup hands down will make more power than a turbo kit and IAT's will be much better, In fact LSA blowers can make more power than this with a iittle work so i am not sure where this supercharger killer kit claim comes from. The FASTEST TEXAS Mile 5th gen in the world runs a Kenne Bell Supercharger and he is a convertible no less.

At the last Runway Rivalry, in Class A, the fastest class., the first and second place cars BOTH had prochargers and were beating turbo and twin turbo cars throughout the two days to get to the finals. BOTH those cars were more consistent than the turbo cars that on paper supposedly made more peak power.

Turbo technology is no doubt getting better but claims of supercharger killer kits have no basis in fact. If you don't believe that try and bring a fifth gen turbo car out to the TEXAS MILE in October and keep up with SNAPPY's Kenne Bell supercharged Camaro. That car will probably run 240 MPH and there wont be a fifth gen turbo car within probably 15-20 MPH of that.

[smokum]

Here is my adm built lsa 417 at 10 psi cammed as a comparison. Yes its forged. But you can really ad 80 -100hp to these numbers from blower loss. So in comparison the pd lsa is a great little 1.9 litre blower that would run very hard against a comparable turbo car at the strip. Im not a turbo hater just a lag hater. And the bigger the turbos the worse it gets imo.

[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by sr71bb

D3R3K is absolutely correct. A nice centri setup hands down will make more power than a turbo kit and IAT's will be much better, So which centri and what turbo kit? IAT's better than what system? In fact LSA blowers can make more power than this with a iittle work so i am not sure where this supercharger killer kit claim comes from. The FASTEST TEXAS Mile 5th gen in the world runs a Kenne Bell Supercharger and he is a convertible no less. Snappys ride is awesome, but wasn't he running spray?

At the last Runway Rivalry, in Class A, the fastest class., the first and second place cars BOTH had prochargers and were beating turbo and twin turbo cars throughout the two days to get to the finals. BOTH those cars were more consistent than the turbo cars that on paper supposedly made more peak power.

Turbo technology is no doubt getting better but claims of supercharger killer kits have no basis in fact. If you don't believe that try and bring a fifth gen turbo car out to the TEXAS MILE in October and keep up with SNAPPY's Kenne Bell supercharged Camaro. You act like all the turbo cars are scared and that there wont be a single turbo car to show up. Id be wiling to bet that there are a few 5th gens out their with turbos come October. That car will probably run 240 MPH and there wont be a fifth gen turbo car within probably 15-20 MPH of that.

I also think Snappy's car is sweet and deserves its recognition, but I think if you pay attention to some of the motorsports world and see what they are using for reliable power in extreme environments, you'll see a trend building. You seem to limit your statements to the 5th gen camaro, have you seen any of the other cars out in the world that run turbos, and what kinda power there making?

Ill just close with this, a well built car, with the right equipment and driver will accomplish amazing things. Snappy's car is proof of that. Not to take away from their accomplishment, but with the collection of people and resources he/they have, something tells me he would have broken that record in a golf cart with a battery powered motor. Smart people with a little cash can do great things. I think you would get your point across better if you stopped acting like Snappy did what he did because he couldn't do it with a turbo setup. And if that's true maybe it would be better if snappy himself would say it.

In the end, records are made to be broken, and something tells me that Snappy also knows that statement to be true, prolly why he is not jumping up and down like you are over which FI system produces more power or faster.