GPI Low lash solid roller custom cam setup

[Bodywerks]

Same here. Would love to see more evidence of power gains like 1sick_eg.

[Rhino79]

Originally Posted by DietCoke

Seems overkill for a heavy car with the fru fru body kit. Hey, if the owner's happy

Sounds good

I think a 429, in a 3200 lb Camaro to run mid 10s overkill too since I went faster with a stock 376 with cam and heads!!

Customers car already ran 11.4s. Circle d 5c, prc255, 3.91 etc

[Rhino79]

Originally Posted by Fast6.3

hey Ryan for a daily driver is it really worth the extra money to run solid versus hydraulic
whats more reliable also

The solids will have unmatched durability. These low lash cams aren't going to need to be readjusted hardly at all either.

But, with increased lift, you will shorten valve spring life. I personally think changing the springs annually would be a good investment.

THe Solids, just don't lay over up top like the hydraulics, and to run the solids, you have to purchase bullet proof valvetrain.

For the serious enthusiast that wants the most out of the setup, the solid will out perform the hydraulic.

And Ill be able to tell you by how much in just a little bit. The only change to this customers car is the cam.

This car will shift at about 7200-7300 rpm.

[Rhino79]

For a daily that wont get raced at all, no its not worth the investment in my honest opinion. If you frequent the track, or are more of a hardcore guy, the solid is the way to go.

[Unreal]

One thing with these solids, the factory ls3 intake manifold isn't design for the high RPM power, so I don't think they can really shine without an aftermarket intake focused on high RPM power. They do work great, but a new intake would really wake them up.

[Rhino79]

I agree. But even with stock intake mine carries out to 7600

[PBANDPKSCAMARO]

Be nice to know what the installed price for this kit is to compare with the other VVT and LS3 conversions out there.

[Bodywerks]

Basically, take a regular cam install price, and add about $2,000. That's $350 for lifters, $400 for valve covers-you can save a few hundred with just spacers, and the big kicker is about $1200 for a set of adjustable rockers.
Now, IMO, if you are already planning on aftermarket rockers and lifters, you might as well just go LLSR. If I start seeing more big hp improvements with this setup, I may just have to take the plunge. Right now, the extra $2k isn't justifiable if it's not worth 40-50 more hp.

[Unreal]

Do ls3 heads have to be machined for the rockers like ls7 heads? If so that is $300-500.

Plus install prices are going to be higher if you are paying a shop, as there is a lot more to the install. I would add 3-4 hours of shop time to a install price to adjust lash, setup rockers, etc.

[PBANDPKSCAMARO]

Originally Posted by Bodywerks

Basically, take a regular cam install price, and add about $2,000. That's $350 for lifters, $400 for valve covers-you can save a few hundred with just spacers, and the big kicker is about $1200 for a set of adjustable rockers.
Now, IMO, if you are already planning on aftermarket rockers and lifters, you might as well just go LLSR. If I start seeing more big hp improvements with this setup, I may just have to take the plunge. Right now, the extra $2k isn't justifiable if it's not worth 40-50 more hp.

Originally Posted by Unreal

Do ls3 heads have to be machined for the rockers like ls7 heads? If so that is $300-500.

Plus install prices are going to be higher if you are paying a shop, as there is a lot more to the install. I would add 3-4 hours of shop time to a install price to adjust lash, setup rockers, etc.

So like around $6000 total factoring all this in?

[Bodywerks]

Ls3 heads don't have to be machined for the rockers.
I priced out an LLSR setup. I was going to just port my current heads:
Btr 660 springs $300
Morel 4737 lifters $395
Cam 236/246 .63x/.62x 114lsa+3 $450
Jesel rockers $1100
Frh porting $1100
Pushrods $250
Melling 10296 pump $150
Katech chain $150
Proform covers n coil relocate $320
Ls2 damper $20
Firecore50 wires $125
Arp bolts $125
You still have to add gaskets and, like 3 bolt cam gear etc, so another few hundo...

[Unreal]

Get some quotes. Like GPI said, I don't think it is worth it for a normal daily car. $2000+ for a bit more top end, but if it is a max effort build, or a money is no issue build, go for it. If your goal is to go fast though, there are much better ways to spend the money.

[DietCoke]

Originally Posted by Rhino79

I think a 429, in a 3200 lb Camaro to run mid 10s overkill too since I went faster with a stock 376 with cam and heads!!

Customers car already ran 11.4s. Circle d 5c, prc255, 3.91 etc

It went 9.x before I got rid of it. The guy who bought it swapped in a glide. Last I heard it runs mid 9s now.

[Pro Stock John]

He should start a new thread on the car, would be interesting to see what changes he made.

As for this thread, the owner of the car is a local friend who got the drag racing bug and has been stepping up his combo. He's one of the guys I race with on a regular basis. I can't wait to hear this combo in person.