Catch can

[rfopt]

I put an Elite catch can on my SS 1LE at roughly 400 miles. 2200 miles later and it has caught more than enough oil/vapor such that I know I made the right choice to buy a catch can.

[rberns]

I'm switching from the old style of the RX can to Mighty Mouse.

[JantzenOKC]

Mighty mouse is working great for me.

[PalmerGA]

Especially important on V6s... V8s, not so much. Had one on my first Camaro (LFX engine) - caught lots of funky crap. Have an Apex CC on my SS, but it doesn't catch near as much funk. Still believe in it though.

[Dizzy82]

Most beneficial to the 6ers. I run an RX can on mine.

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

I use to run the Elite can but after cam install it feels very restrictive so I switched to a Moroso setup I made that is not restrictive and catches very well. Funny how the Elite can, both lines were moist with oil where as on my Moroso the return tube to the intake manifold is dry.

You lost me with this one.

How is the Elite one suddenly more restrictive after a cam install?
What do you mean by more restrictive?

Interesting..

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

You lost me with this one.

How is the Elite one suddenly more restrictive after a cam install?
What do you mean by more restrictive?

Interesting..

Can't be. The pressure flow is so low it wouldn't be noticeable.

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

You lost me with this one.

How is the Elite one suddenly more restrictive after a cam install?
What do you mean by more restrictive?

Interesting..

This pissed me off too. But my only thought is that the upgraded cam of course moves air at a higher pressure rate and of course air is sucked in through and exhausted out of the engine at a higher pressure. Obviously if the can works well with stock setup, cam and what not then it should work with mods as well , well seem not the case. Think of it this way. If you added a blower to your car to say 750 hp would the 2.5" exhaust still give best performance or even say stock headers. Seems like the way the internals of the Elite can is designed had the air entering from the top being forced towards the bottom then having to rise up towards the top against the force of air being initially forced downward then escaping out the hole at the side top location. This is the only thing that made me think this is what is causing that feel of resistance for air flow. The other cans I seen have a side to side flow, in on the left out on the right. Moroso and the Mightymouse catch cans are basically the only 2 cans I have my eyes on now. Lots of Corvette guys love the Mightymouse can. I only bought the Moroso setup because it was cheaper but I had to add my own add ons AN connections and so on. I then tried the Elite Catch can vs Moroso can test by blowing into both cans with fittings on and even then the Moroso can felt way more free flowing, so I figured this should fix my issue. Well guess what , after install using the same steel braided hoses I noticed my engine breathing way better and wolla the pull from 0 to redline was insane. Felt like going from stock headers to freaking 2" headers if that gives you any idea. The deal is that even the size of the hoses we use for catch cans also determine the amount of air that travels through the cranckcase, valley cover tube connection and so on. I also tried other test such as -6 steel braided hoses and -8 steel braided hoses, the result was shocking but worth the test. Seems like even with the same tune, cam, headers, and exhaust and intake, if you use -6 hoses vs - 8 you can actually alter your engines torque and hp range similar to changing exhaust size. -6 feels more torque in the low end and reduced high end performance similar to having smaller exhaust diameter where as -8 felt like having larger exhaust like say 2.5" vs 3". Seems like I am going off topic here but the catch can thing lead me to do these trials with different hose sizes and so on.

[Demon War Horse]

Originally Posted by AITI

Demon, have you looked at the Elite billet cleanside unit? 1/2 price of GM's plastic empty one, and really does the job.

I did not know about it then, but I wanted the OEM look for now anyway.

[Black&WhiteEnvy]

Dhall1911 protect your investment. Do some research and find out whats good. Don't just buy the cheapest catch can you cN find. You spent how much for your Camaro? You want to get something with good reviews. You get what you pay for nowadays. I guess I could recommend brandX to you but I can't disclose who that is at the moment due to the nature of the experiment. Someone up in the thread posted a link to it if I'm not mistaken. If you need something now, suggesting that you own your Camaro and not leasing it. Then I'd say follow your own thread. Your getting lots of good comments. Give it a few days. I'm sure you will be able to make the right decision. I belong to a Camaro club and quite a few
Of them rant and rave about they're RX can and how they would never look back. Im new to all this too and never had a catch can. I think that's why I ended up running this little experiment for these people. still have not herd one bad comment about the brand I'm experimenting for. And it's testing out better than the competition.

[dhall1911]

Originally Posted by Black&WhiteEnvy

Dhall1911 protect your investment. Do some research and find out whats good. Don't just buy the cheapest catch can you cN find. You spent how much for your Camaro? You want to get something with good reviews. You get what you pay for nowadays. I guess I could recommend brandX to you but I can't disclose who that is at the moment due to the nature of the experiment. Someone up in the thread posted a link to it if I'm not mistaken. If you need something now, suggesting that you own your Camaro and not leasing it. Then I'd say follow your own thread. Your getting lots of good comments. Give it a few days. I'm sure you will be able to make the right decision. I belong to a Camaro club and quite a few
Of them rant and rave about they're RX can and how they would never look back. Im new to all this too and never had a catch can. I think that's why I ended up running this little experiment for these people. still have not herd one bad comment about the brand I'm experimenting for. And it's testing out better than the competition.

Hopefully experiment is over soon and can find out what brandx is


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[Dizzy82]

Having brand A or B is better than none.

[AITI]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

This pissed me off too. But my only thought is that the upgraded cam of course moves air at a higher pressure rate and of course air is sucked in through and exhausted out of the engine at a higher pressure. Obviously if the can works well with stock setup, cam and what not then it should work with mods as well , well seem not the case. Think of it this way. If you added a blower to your car to say 750 hp would the 2.5" exhaust still give best performance or even say stock headers. Seems like the way the internals of the Elite can is designed had the air entering from the top being forced towards the bottom then having to rise up towards the top against the force of air being initially forced downward then escaping out the hole at the side top location. This is the only thing that made me think this is what is causing that feel of resistance for air flow. The other cans I seen have a side to side flow, in on the left out on the right. Moroso and the Mightymouse catch cans are basically the only 2 cans I have my eyes on now. Lots of Corvette guys love the Mightymouse can. I only bought the Moroso setup because it was cheaper but I had to add my own add ons AN connections and so on. I then tried the Elite Catch can vs Moroso can test by blowing into both cans with fittings on and even then the Moroso can felt way more free flowing, so I figured this should fix my issue. Well guess what , after install using the same steel braided hoses I noticed my engine breathing way better and wolla the pull from 0 to redline was insane. Felt like going from stock headers to freaking 2" headers if that gives you any idea. The deal is that even the size of the hoses we use for catch cans also determine the amount of air that travels through the cranckcase, valley cover tube connection and so on. I also tried other test such as -6 steel braided hoses and -8 steel braided hoses, the result was shocking but worth the test. Seems like even with the same tune, cam, headers, and exhaust and intake, if you use -6 hoses vs - 8 you can actually alter your engines torque and hp range similar to changing exhaust size. -6 feels more torque in the low end and reduced high end performance similar to having smaller exhaust diameter where as -8 felt like having larger exhaust like say 2.5" vs 3". Seems like I am going off topic here but the catch can thing lead me to do these trials with different hose sizes and so on.

All be aware, the fixed orifice in either the valley barb or the rear of the drivers side valve cover (L99) is tiny as all get out, so no way the Elite was restricted, I suspect the issue would be the cleanside of the system that was the issue IMHO, or just that small restriction in the barb itself. Very common with a large cube, boosted or modified engine as the factory restriction is tiny. Take a flashlight and look down into the barb on the rear of the drivers side valve cover.

[Black&WhiteEnvy]

Unfortunately this test will extend into next year. However the exposure of brandX will arrive before hand...