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*Mindz* · 05-22-2008, 04:53 AM

I'll say it again.

ATTN: CAR MAGAZINES: STOP PUBLISHING BULLSHIT!

If someone can find me a QUALITY car magazine I might think about a subscription. I'd rather get facts from Top Gear and Fifth Gear than read an American car magazine. That's how warped the magazines are nowadays...

Camaro Lives On · 05-22-2008, 06:45 AM

Hey guys, stop bashing Road & Track, and Motor Trend (have fun bashing Car & Driver). You gotta remember, the people writting these articles are guessing just like we are. We dont know hp, price, model names, hell the SS could end up being the top level V6 for all we know (just... no). Go thru this site one time, and you'll find HUNDREDS of guesses, speculation, and photoshops (good and bad) about how we believe it will be like. Stop bashing them so bad, at least they are trying to keep us up to date (except Car & Driver, f**k them)!!!

*Mindz* · 05-22-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro Lives On

Hey guys, stop bashing Road & Track, and Motor Trend (have fun bashing Car & Driver). You gotta remember, the people writting these articles are guessing just like we are. We dont know hp, price, model names, hell the SS could end up being the top level V6 for all we know (just... no). Go thru this site one time, and you'll find HUNDREDS of guesses, speculation, and photoshops (good and bad) about how we believe it will be like. Stop bashing them so bad, at least they are trying to keep us up to date (except Car & Driver, f**k them)!!!

Quote:

Slated to bow in the first quarter of 2009 as an early 2010 model, it's expected that the Camaro will be offered in three trim levels — LS, LT and SS. The base LS may be powered by Chevy's 3.5-liter pushrod V-6 making about 220 bhp. The LT models would use the overhead-cam direct-injected 3.6-liter V-6 developing upward of 300 bhp, while the SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter LS3 V-8 (similar to that found in the Corvette) tuned to produce around 400–405 bhp. A year after launch, Chevy will introduce a convertible version and after that a high-performance Z28 model with a super-charged 6.2-liter sibling to the Corvette ZR1's LS9 motor known as the LSA. That engine would make somewhere in the neighborhood of 480–500 bhp and is similar to the engine used in the upcoming Cadillac CTS-V.

Guesses my ass. F**K R&T.

*radz28* · 05-22-2008, 10:33 AM

That wasn't too bad a read and the video had some new clips in there too, so that wasn't bad. I'm not a particular fan of that 'rag, but I think they didn't do too bad a job in this case. Most of it wasn't new, but the chops were pretty nice and the information seemed to be loosely along the lines of what we've been hearing/reading. I might have to pick this issue up just to add to my 5th. Gen. collection

Thanks for the post

MerF · 05-22-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro Lives On

You gotta remember, the people writting these articles are guessing just like we are.....

The problem is that most of the time, they don't put off like they are guessing, they are trying to tell the readers that they have the facts, and that's what irks the community the most I think.

Sphinx002 · 05-22-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega94

First off, no one is saying that it will be one way or another, I merely said that I'd hate if that were to happen. Secondly...NO ONE is questioning whether or not 'Z28' and 'SS' will be models, however, 'RS' has not been confirmed nor implied...so, 'RS' is just at speculation level...

Ok big boy, I'm usually really nice, but this comment got me steamed.

1. I wasn't talking to you hence I didn't quote anyone. Rolling eyes are for teenagers.

2. I never said that there WOULD be an RS. Learn to read. I was giving examples of what type of models might be used (using monikers that have been used in the past - I could also have said ZL1).

3. Everything is speculation unless it comes from Fbodfather, so thank you for pointing that out Capitan Obvious.

4. My comment was simple...don't worry about an LS or LT "model" as it isn't going to happen. They might be used for trim level orders, but that is it. The Camaro has a long history, and LS/Lt isn't part of it.

Now stop being Mr. Sensitive and seeing attacks where they didn't happen. Also please learn to read.

rmyers · 05-22-2008, 01:28 PM

Anyone have an idea as to why we haven't seen the production headlights? Are they that big of design challenge or secret? Are they something that has not been done before? I don't get it.

Ron

*DGthe3* · 05-22-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rmyers

Anyone have an idea as to why we haven't seen the production headlights? Are they that big of design challenge or secret? Are they something that has not been done before? I don't get it.

Ron

We were told that because headlights get beat up pretty good (rocks and debris causing scratches and such) they need to do a lifetime of testing on them before they are finalized. Apparently this is always the case, but nobody ever notices or cares.

Sphinx002 · 05-22-2008, 02:01 PM

It's the same with all GM mules - taillights are usually parts bin too.

2010_5thgen · 05-22-2008, 07:43 PM

since im sure SLP is going to be making after market parts for the camaro, arent they under the factory warranty if they install them?? if im mistaken, is there any brand that will follow with gm's factory warranty??

*TAG UR IT* · 05-23-2008, 01:09 AM

SLP had shipped to them all the Z28's which they built into SS models for GM. Now, i have no idea how this is giong to work for the 5th Gens. If it was the same way going through SLP, then yes....it would be under warranty.

Only time will tell what can and can't be done. Personally, I'd like for my 5th Gen to go to GMPP and get some extra goodies put on before it is delievered....namely a cam and headers. But, we'll see!!

Nickdago · 05-24-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ihc95

Finally, a nice photoshop. Looks great with the quad exaust. Im not sure about the SS emblems on the grill and trunk. But I love the big rims!

I agree. Love the quad exhaust. Also, this car really looks sharp. Black is Beautiful. Everything looks hot on this car. When can I get mine? Actually I love the SS badges!

Nickdago · 05-24-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MerF

Very clean chops. Was the article worth reading?

I thought the article was pretty good. Some of the posts on the forum though were pretty lame. It will be great when they finally get the cars out so every pinhead on the forums will stop whinning about things they know nothing about

Camaroman_99 · 05-24-2008, 07:53 AM

They look good to me.

05-22-2008, 04:53 AM	#15
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,420	I'll say it again. ATTN: CAR MAGAZINES: STOP PUBLISHING BULLSHIT! If someone can find me a QUALITY car magazine I might think about a subscription. I'd rather get facts from Top Gear and Fifth Gear than read an American car magazine. That's how warped the magazines are nowadays... __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

05-22-2008, 10:33 AM	#18
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,787 View My Garage	That wasn't too bad a read and the video had some new clips in there too, so that wasn't bad. I'm not a particular fan of that 'rag, but I think they didn't do too bad a job in this case. Most of it wasn't new, but the chops were pretty nice and the information seemed to be loosely along the lines of what we've been hearing/reading. I might have to pick this issue up just to add to my 5th. Gen. collection Thanks for the post __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

05-22-2008, 07:43 PM	#24
2010_5thgen Drives: 2012 Porsche Panamera 4 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,274 View My Garage	since im sure SLP is going to be making after market parts for the camaro, arent they under the factory warranty if they install them?? if im mistaken, is there any brand that will follow with gm's factory warranty?? __________________ Brixton Forged CM10 Wheels IN STOCK!!! RF7 SOON!!!! Camaro/M3/M4 wheels in stock High Gloss Titanium

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05-23-2008, 01:09 AM	#25
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	SLP had shipped to them all the Z28's which they built into SS models for GM. Now, i have no idea how this is giong to work for the 5th Gens. If it was the same way going through SLP, then yes....it would be under warranty. Only time will tell what can and can't be done. Personally, I'd like for my 5th Gen to go to GMPP and get some extra goodies put on before it is delievered....namely a cam and headers. But, we'll see!!