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UF4LIFE102SS · 08-15-2015, 06:23 PM

Post 15 that is as close as the nuts will get?

Sickness91Z28 · 08-15-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UF4LIFE102SS

Post 15 that is as close as the nuts will get?

Here is a pic with the nuts close. This is what happens with the recommended preload. No room for lowering ride height

Sickness91Z28 · 08-15-2015, 06:53 PM

It could go a little lower if there were most adjustment. It's like the spring is waaaay to long

Sickness91Z28 · 08-15-2015, 06:54 PM

Not low at all, as low as it will go

Mike_G · 08-15-2015, 07:23 PM

you have already loosened the lower most lock ring and threaded the whole shock body as far as it will go into the lower colar right? This is how you generally lower coilover with this design I believe, not with preloading the springs. Get some preload on the spring and then thread the whole body down into the lower lortion as far as it will go if you havent already. If you have then I have no clue.

Avalnch · 08-15-2015, 07:33 PM

Mike_G is correct, you need to lower the shock body into its housing.
This will require that you remove your coil overs to do.

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sting808 · 08-15-2015, 07:39 PM

Post 15, the bottom locking ring should be loosened and the strut should be able to twist down such that it can protrude from the bottom. I had my XAs protruding at least an inch out of the bottom and could go more. If it binds, be carefully not to gall the threads if dirt/particles get in.

As for the coil, spring rate and length may be specific for vehicle setup. Perhaps the original car needed that spring spec. 4kg(250ish lbs) is what ride tech uses. I believe DSE is 275. The Pedders/BC comes with 180 or 200mm front coils. Anything longer and you'll probably need a spring compressor and may need more preload to get strut range when using softer spring rates.

I needed to use a 150lbs rate that kind of matches OE to pass a stupid local suspension travel requirement for modified cars. The 150 compressed so much that I ran out of spring travel with shorter springs. Ended using a 10" and used a compressor. Depending what you're doing, you may want to consider a different size/rate spring. BC, Draco, Hyperco, etc. Summit has a lot of 2.5" options, too.

Sickness91Z28 · 08-15-2015, 07:43 PM

I have done that, this shows that it is bottomed out, should be the lowest ride height possible. The body is completely all the way in. See the threads? Will not go anymore.

sting808 · 08-15-2015, 08:08 PM

You can look at other spring options depending on your goals. I wonder if the drag coil-overs are just SuperCars with softer springs. Or, they have custom internal valving.

Sickness91Z28 · 08-15-2015, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sting808

You can look at other spring options depending on your goals. I wonder if the drag coil-overs are just SuperCars with softer springs. Or, they have custom internal valving.

That's what I'm starting to think too. My car isn't a drag car, I got these lingenfelter/pedders for a pretty descent price and thought they would act the same as the standard pedders supercar set up.

You mentioned that the current springs on these are about 3" longer that the standard pedders coil overs. Could that be why it's not lowering?

sting808 · 08-15-2015, 11:30 PM

You can wait for Pete or lingenfelter for a response. Not sure what spec springs come with the Supercars or if this is a special build model. Or, contact a former sponsor/Pedders dealer Raymond's alignment(Bruce). They may know more. Haddad is another former Sponser/Pedders dealer.

I'm using Draco 325lbs 8" springs on my XAs.

Sickness91Z28 · 08-16-2015, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sting808

You can wait for Pete or lingenfelter for a response. Not sure what spec springs come with the Supercars or if this is a special build model. Or, contact a former sponsor/Pedders dealer Raymond's alignment(Bruce). They may know more. Haddad is another former Sponser/Pedders dealer.

I'm using Draco 325lbs 8" springs on my XAs.

10-4 on that. I contacted Bruce @ Raymonds over the weekend. Hopefully I'll hear from him early next week. If it's just a matter of swapping out the springs.....I'm not to worried about it. If not...they will be up forsale in the classifieds

UF4LIFE102SS · 08-22-2015, 01:30 PM

Get any help yet?

Synner · 08-22-2015, 04:21 PM

They have different valving and springs, they're going to be super soft for any kind of road course or autocross.

08-15-2015, 06:23 PM	#15
UF4LIFE102SS Treasure Coast Camaro 5 Drives: 2010 2 SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vero Beach, FL. Posts: 4,239 View My Garage	Post 15 that is as close as the nuts will get? __________________

08-15-2015, 06:53 PM	#17
Sickness91Z28 Reaper Crew Drives: Blown 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 985	It could go a little lower if there were most adjustment. It's like the spring is waaaay to long Attached Images __________________ 2010 Camaro SS SLP TVS2300 Blower, Blower Cam, Lingenfelter Heads, Meth Injected, 5lbs of Boost@700 BHP Pedders XA Coilovers

08-15-2015, 06:54 PM	#18
Sickness91Z28 Reaper Crew Drives: Blown 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 985	Not low at all, as low as it will go Attached Images __________________ 2010 Camaro SS SLP TVS2300 Blower, Blower Cam, Lingenfelter Heads, Meth Injected, 5lbs of Boost@700 BHP Pedders XA Coilovers

08-15-2015, 07:23 PM	#19
Mike_G Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Ma Posts: 476	you have already loosened the lower most lock ring and threaded the whole shock body as far as it will go into the lower colar right? This is how you generally lower coilover with this design I believe, not with preloading the springs. Get some preload on the spring and then thread the whole body down into the lower lortion as far as it will go if you havent already. If you have then I have no clue. __________________ Current car 2011 Backdraft RT3 427 stroker (DART block/ forged internals/ AFR 205 Aluminum heads/ Quickfuel 750) 600hp/590ftlbs, wilwood brakes, custom JRI double adjustable shocks. Weighs in at 2300 lbs.... Use to have 2010 Camaro SS - ECS SC 1500, Kooks LTH + HFC, Corsa, CTS-V brakes, Detroit Speed Coilovers, BMR sways (FE4 conversion), DSE endlinks, BMR toe rods and trailing arms, Forgestar F14's

08-15-2015, 07:43 PM	#22
Sickness91Z28 Reaper Crew Drives: Blown 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 985	I have done that, this shows that it is bottomed out, should be the lowest ride height possible. The body is completely all the way in. See the threads? Will not go anymore. Attached Images __________________ 2010 Camaro SS SLP TVS2300 Blower, Blower Cam, Lingenfelter Heads, Meth Injected, 5lbs of Boost@700 BHP Pedders XA Coilovers

08-15-2015, 07:33 PM	#20
Avalnch Drives: Rally Yellow Camaro+Avalanche Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,110	Mike_G is correct, you need to lower the shock body into its housing. This will require that you remove your coil overs to do.

08-15-2015, 07:39 PM	#21
sting808 Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 929	Post 15, the bottom locking ring should be loosened and the strut should be able to twist down such that it can protrude from the bottom. I had my XAs protruding at least an inch out of the bottom and could go more. If it binds, be carefully not to gall the threads if dirt/particles get in. As for the coil, spring rate and length may be specific for vehicle setup. Perhaps the original car needed that spring spec. 4kg(250ish lbs) is what ride tech uses. I believe DSE is 275. The Pedders/BC comes with 180 or 200mm front coils. Anything longer and you'll probably need a spring compressor and may need more preload to get strut range when using softer spring rates. I needed to use a 150lbs rate that kind of matches OE to pass a stupid local suspension travel requirement for modified cars. The 150 compressed so much that I ran out of spring travel with shorter springs. Ended using a 10" and used a compressor. Depending what you're doing, you may want to consider a different size/rate spring. BC, Draco, Hyperco, etc. Summit has a lot of 2.5" options, too.

08-15-2015, 08:08 PM	#23
sting808 Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 929	You can look at other spring options depending on your goals. I wonder if the drag coil-overs are just SuperCars with softer springs. Or, they have custom internal valving.

08-15-2015, 11:30 PM	#25
sting808 Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 929	You can wait for Pete or lingenfelter for a response. Not sure what spec springs come with the Supercars or if this is a special build model. Or, contact a former sponsor/Pedders dealer Raymond's alignment(Bruce). They may know more. Haddad is another former Sponser/Pedders dealer. I'm using Draco 325lbs 8" springs on my XAs.

08-22-2015, 01:30 PM	#27
UF4LIFE102SS Treasure Coast Camaro 5 Drives: 2010 2 SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vero Beach, FL. Posts: 4,239 View My Garage	Get any help yet? __________________

08-22-2015, 04:21 PM	#28
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,542	They have different valving and springs, they're going to be super soft for any kind of road course or autocross.