10-05-2015, 09:08 AM | #15 |
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10-05-2015, 09:18 AM | #16 |
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woohoo...soapbox-steppin. What is the point of the worry of running up mileage? What is the point of the car?
- Do I want to run up the mileage on the ZL1? (currently under 5k miles in 9+ months of ownership) - How thoughtful you are that you are afraid to drive your car because you want it perfect for the next guy. How wonderful a humanitarian you are by always thinking of others whenever you purchase things! How unselfish your have grown to become as an adult. Pfffft! Drive the piss out of it. If you hate to drive it that much you better sell it now! - I'll be using 3-4 gallons of gas per day vs. ~1, would be nice to have something more fuel efficient but I don't want to drive a beater $50k used car and you are worried about $8 a day avg. Seriously? $300ins / yr (other car) + $1500 (gas @ 2.50 for 300 days) + $100 (oil changes) + licenses = ~ $2000 a yr. just for the other car. A DD that you love is the only way to go. Keeping both ends up costing you more out of pocket and netting you very little when you consider all of the miles you didn't drive just to give to the next guy. And if you trade at a dealership, all bets are off! - will not have a garage spot but will have off-street parking (very urban environment). Do I want it sitting outside all winter? Also the effect of salt on the car This is your MOST compelling argument for getting rid of the Z. Driving a car daily is one thing, but being able to maintain it is another. Many people on here do not have garages. Keeping a car out of the IL elements will be crucial to its survival. Driving the car will be MUCH easier on it than letting it sit out in the weather. If you can't find a place to park it inside, and you can't afford to drive it....sell it. End of discussion.
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10-05-2015, 09:43 AM | #18 |
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I have a Chevy Cruze and a Dodge Ram 2500 when the weather is really bad.
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10-05-2015, 09:48 AM | #19 |
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I don't DD my GTR but I'm not affraid too, I bought it at 40k and I already have put 3k on it so mileage never bothered me. I bought it to drive it and track it.
Driving in the winter isnt an issue with good tires, just don't drive like an idiot. Better to drive it year round than just let it sit throughout the winter without a garage. I have only had a garage for 7 months, so my Camaro was outside daily and used as my daily. I've never seen the point of a beater, drive a car you enjoy. Period. I know guys that drive GTRs but daily drive a Prius...
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10-05-2015, 10:02 AM | #20 |
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Buying/leasing a second car never really makes financial sense as the other guys have pointed out. Your Camaro will soon become a very expensive toy rather than a fun car to drive to the office.
I would look into using public transportation if you expect a snow storm. I used to do that when I lived in the DC area. It seems likely you could park at a lot close to a commuter bus or train station and take that into town.
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10-05-2015, 10:17 AM | #21 |
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I have a 2012 Silverado LTZ.
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10-05-2015, 10:23 AM | #22 |
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Just keep it and drive it. You've already spent the money on it, so use the car. There are maybe two or three mornings all winter where the plows haven't been through and you might have issues with snow. Other than that, the roads are plenty clear to drive that car year round.
The .25 carwash is your friend. Wash the car frequently and you won't have any trouble. If, and this is a big if, ten years down the road, the car starts to develop rust issues, then sell it... and buy another one from some guy who "saved" his car. Those cars are not rare enough to worry about right now.
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10-05-2015, 12:28 PM | #23 |
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[QUOTE=ClawSS;8669161]woohoo...soapbox-steppin. What is the point of the worry of running up mileage? What is the point of the car?
- Do I want to run up the mileage on the ZL1? (currently under 5k miles in 9+ months of ownership) - How thoughtful you are that you are afraid to drive your car because you want it perfect for the next guy. How wonderful a humanitarian you are by always thinking of others whenever you purchase things! How unselfish your have grown to become as an adult. Pfffft! Drive the piss out of it. If you hate to drive it that much you better sell it now! - I'll be using 3-4 gallons of gas per day vs. ~1, would be nice to have something more fuel efficient but I don't want to drive a beater $50k used car and you are worried about $8 a day avg. Seriously? $300ins / yr (other car) + $1500 (gas @ 2.50 for 300 days) + $100 (oil changes) + licenses = ~ $2000 a yr. just for the other car. A DD that you love is the only way to go. Keeping both ends up costing you more out of pocket and netting you very little when you consider all of the miles you didn't drive just to give to the next guy. And if you trade at a dealership, all bets are off! - will not have a garage spot but will have off-street parking (very urban environment). Do I want it sitting outside all winter? Also the effect of salt on the car This is your MOST compelling argument for getting rid of the Z. Driving a car daily is one thing, but being able to maintain it is another. Many people on here do not have garages. Keeping a car out of the IL elements will be crucial to its survival. Driving the car will be MUCH easier on it than letting it sit out in the weather. If you can't find a place to park it inside, and you can't afford to drive it....sell it. End of discussion. |
10-05-2015, 07:41 PM | #24 |
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You could buy one of those easy to erect car port type shelters, and buy a cheapo 100$ month payment car to beat on and save the zl1 as its worth keeping more prestine.
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10-05-2015, 08:00 PM | #25 |
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You asked about the effect of salt. Of course salt= corrosion and rust. All the cast aluminum in the engine compartment will look like it has white barnicals all over it. As far as frame and body... Today's cars are better protected with galvanized metal and "e" coat before the primer. But eventually, rust will find it's way through over a few years.
The top side can look pretty for years to come with care, but the bottom side will suffer. But parking outside will not contribute to the rust. Best to wash salt off as often as your can on the few warm days that pop up in winter. You already said you drove it last winter, so no doubt salt has already sprayed everywhere. So she is no longer a salt free virgin anyways. I say if you enjoy driving year around, then go for it. Resale value will be effected, as there are so many used camaros, that have never even seen rain let alone snow.
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10-05-2015, 09:52 PM | #26 |
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Gas mileage and MPG just don't enter my thoughts. my commute is 80+ miles a day. I bought a green Scat pack as my DD so I can do more mods on my SS.
Big issue with camaros if sitting out is that they are real easy to steal. In the Bay Area it is a real problem. If you are keeping it on the street. look at some security. Revelco is a very good one to think of.
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