Cold air Airaid Camaro 3.6L V6 250-242

[Airaid Filters]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

OK, so nevermind the engine break in debate. Lets not go totally off topic here.

In my mind, the real question concerning the new CAI hasn't been addressed yet.

How do we know what kind of gains will be seen from the Airaid if its been installed on a car that sounds like it has not yet been ran hard or dynoed? If I was the maker, wouldn't I want to install this on a fully broke in car that I can do some proper testing on, instead of just going around the block?

az2009se, I think its great that you got a new CAI out of the deal, Heck Im jealous! But how are you going to know if your getting anything out of it when you don't truely know what the car can do with the stock intake?

Someone enlighten me! lol

Hello KMPrenger,

What car has just been driven around the block for testing??

We Purchased a V8 & V6 Camaro months ago to develop, test and tune our systems, which we have been doing.

The Airaid system has been flow bench tested and Dyno tested on our in house Mustang chassis Dyno!

az2009se was needed because we simply needed to test a Manual car with our final production piece, as we have done a bunch of testing with the automatic Camaro that we purchased.

Thanks,
David

[Icefsh]

David, would you mind telling us how much horsepower and torque were gained over the stock intake?

[i007spectre]

On the last cai I installed, i needed to unhook the battery so that the ecu would reset itself to the higher air flow. Is that required here as well. Also is there a link somewhere to installation instructions. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Icefsh

David, would you mind telling us how much horsepower and torque were gained over the stock intake?

Hello Icefsh,

AIRAID Intake System For 2010 3.6L V6 Camaro Features :

* High Flow Washable & Reusable Air Filter
* Massive 4" Modular Intake Tube
* Easy Bolt-On Installation
* Exclusive Lifetime "No-Hassle" Warranty!
* Part # 250-242 | $329.90
* Add +11HP & +14 Ft.lbs/Torque over the factory air induction system!



Thanks,
David

[az2009se]

I had more time to drive it today with the Airaid intake. The car feels stronger. I think it's pulling harder from a stop and feels more responsive if I gas it while already moving. I didn't have any baseline dyno numbers nor do I have any after install, but it feels great!

[KMPrenger]

David@Airaid,

Just wanted to let you know I appreciate your response, and I appologize if my last post came across as disrespectful. That was not my intent...I know you guys have done your testing!

I was just confused as to how az2009se was selected for testing, and moreso when it sounded like there wasn't much testing done with his car.

Your CAI looks great, and I'm definitely interested!

[mike25]

Originally Posted by Xanthos

No... its the classic "baby it" break-in vs "hard" break-in debate.

Personally, I suggest throwing a break-in specific oil in it (like RP's break-in oil, or another like it) and then drive it like you normally would. But thats just my personal preference.

However, I would suggest no top-speed runs or 1/4 miles until its broken in. However, lead footing it on the street shouldn't be an issue.
- X

no i was just saying the guy was originally stating that the reason he wasnt getting on it was because hes still breaking his car in

[mike25]

Originally Posted by 97one

Yes I do understand that BUT if you are going to be that CAUTIOUS then why would you put a aftermarket air intake system on your car ?

There are many ways to break in a car.
Another example;...............

What's The Best Way To Break-In A New Engine ??
The Short Answer: Run it Hard !

Why ??
Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...
How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of
PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??
Of course it can't.

How Do Rings Seal Against Tremendous Combustion Pressure ??

From the actual gas pressure itself !! It passes over the top of the ring, and gets behind it to force it outward against the cylinder wall. The problem is that new rings are far from perfect and they must be worn in quite a bit in order to completely seal all the way around the bore. If the gas pressure is strong enough during the engine's first miles of operation (open that throttle !!!), then the entire ring will wear into
the cylinder surface, to seal the combustion pressure as well as possible.


The Problem With "Easy Break In" ...
The honed crosshatch pattern in the cylinder bore acts like a file to allow the rings to wear. The rings quickly wear down the "peaks" of this roughness, regardless of how hard the engine is run.

There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !!

If the rings aren't forced against the walls soon enough, they'll use up the roughness before they fully seat. Once that happens there is no solution but to re hone the cylinders, install new rings and start over again.
Etc. Etc.

i wasnt saying how it should be done...i was simply stating hes still breaking the car in.

[bluedevil02]

yay i get mine in two days....

[HaveBlue]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I was just confused as to how az2009se was selected for testing, and moreso when it sounded like there wasn't much testing done with his car.

Your CAI looks great, and I'm definitely interested!

I'd guess it's because he's in Phoenix where their headquarters is.

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

David@Airaid,

Just wanted to let you know I appreciate your response, and I appologize if my last post came across as disrespectful. That was not my intent...I know you guys have done your testing!

I was just confused as to how az2009se was selected for testing, and moreso when it sounded like there wasn't much testing done with his car.

Your CAI looks great, and I'm definitely interested!

Hello KMPrenger,

Its no problem at all. I am here to answer any questions you may have concerning the Airaid systems.

Go with the Airaid, you will be very pleased with the system!

Any other questions, please feel free and let me know.

Thanks,
David

[renderinfo]

I get mine on the 13th. I've got 4K miles already on my V6 automatic, and already did one oil change.

I'll report my findings. All my "findings" will be 100% subjective, as I am the only driver, and intend to keep it that way. From the day I took my baby home, I've done only 93 octane gas, and while I don't drive it "hard", I've NEVER baby'd it. I've taken it to 120 a few times (maybe 3 times), but for the most part, I'm driving in the 30-80 mph range. Now I understand that there might only be a "mental difference", but I am really looking forward to my Airaid CAI and seeing how my car feels after I install it. I know EXACTLY how it feels right now, and I am quite happy. But the reports of getting a little more torque for a measley $300 was pretty enticing for me.

After about 2500-3000 miles, I "SUBJECTIVELY" noticed my V6 baby was more responsive and revv'd faster, and got from 5-45 (2nd gear) and 45-60 (3rd gear) much faster (yes, driving it in sport/manual mode and using the paddle shifters). I am super excited that my car might "feel" even more powerful than it does right now. I'll be reading other people's experiences, and I'll report my own, after I get it installed (and drive it for a little while =O ) Stay tuned...

[scrming]

Originally Posted by renderinfo

I get mine on the 13th. I've got 4K miles already on my V6 automatic, and already did one oil change.

I'll report my findings. All my "findings" will be 100% subjective, as I am the only driver, and intend to keep it that way. From the day I took my baby home, I've done only 93 octane gas, and while I don't drive it "hard", I've NEVER baby'd it. I've taken it to 120 a few times (maybe 3 times), but for the most part, I'm driving in the 30-80 mph range. Now I understand that there might only be a "mental difference", but I am really looking forward to my Airaid CAI and seeing how my car feels after I install it. I know EXACTLY how it feels right now, and I am quite happy. But the reports of getting a little more torque for a measley $300 was pretty enticing for me.

After about 2500-3000 miles, I "SUBJECTIVELY" noticed my V6 baby was more responsive and revv'd faster, and got from 5-45 (2nd gear) and 45-60 (3rd gear) much faster (yes, driving it in sport/manual mode and using the paddle shifters). I am super excited that my car might "feel" even more powerful than it does right now. I'll be reading other people's experiences, and I'll report my own, after I get it installed (and drive it for a little while =O ) Stay tuned...

One thing to keep in mind... The LLT really seems to be more sensitive to weather changes than pretty much any other car I've driven... Don't know about Florida, but the days here in Michigan are cooler now... LOL

[renderinfo]

Originally Posted by scrming

One thing to keep in mind... The LLT really seems to be more sensitive to weather changes than pretty much any other car I've driven... Don't know about Florida, but the days here in Michigan are cooler now... LOL

Quick question. My Airaid CAI is coming Tuesday. I am not an automechanic, and pretty much don't know jack about cars. I'm what you would call "dangerous" as I only know what I read...

I just got through reading scrmng's IAT relocation article http://v6john.com/index.php/performance/53-heatsoak and thought it was pretty cool. I also read his comments about only having to pull fuses 5 and 20 from the engine fusebox to reset the ECM while I am installing the CAI... That should be a big help during installation as well.

My question is... Is relocating the IAT something I would want to do as well? Or is this something that the CAI I am buying will do as part of the installation? Sorry about the neophyte question(s), but I just thought I would ask...